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Pre-Proposal Discussion / Re: Add Proof-Of-Orphan-Mining
« on: November 13, 2018, 01:06:41 pm »
A few questions/Concerns:
1. privacy (I wouldn't want someone else having the password to my account, or personal information it provides)
2. Tax implications,  if you sponsor directly you can deduct.. but if you are being reimbursed for it,  are there tax implications outside of just the crypto-related ones?
3. orphanstats site, who runs/maintains it.. How is privacy ensured etc etc...

On #2, I know the fiat payment to compassion is tax deductible for the end user (as compassion is a 501c3), and then the mining revenue from bbp -> the end user is mining revenue.  You would have to consult your local tax laws for how the mining revenue impacts you.

On #1, and #3, I will have to answer this later in detail as Im traveling  now.

Pre-Proposal Discussion / Add Proof-Of-Orphan-Mining
« on: November 13, 2018, 11:38:51 am »
Let's all discuss the implications of proof-of-orphan-mining if added to BiblePay.

From a high level, this would allow a new user to set up the wallet for mining in a much simpler way, and reward the masses for sponsoring personal orphans.

Please see this information first:

Pre-Proposal Discussion / Should we remove the BOINC Team Blacklist (PODC)?
« on: November 07, 2018, 12:19:16 pm »
If we remove the blacklist, members of Gridcoin and Byteball for example will be eligibile for PODC rewards.

Archived Proposals / Re: October Payroll and IT Expenses
« on: October 23, 2018, 01:25:49 pm »
Re-entering at a lower price in hopes Togo will re-join the community.

Archived Proposals / Re: October recurring sponsorships
« on: October 23, 2018, 12:18:50 pm »
Re-entering @ 4.34 MM so that everyone can get paid this month.

Secondly because we received our compassion credit- so our bill is technically free this month.

Will add the link to our 2018 audit to our Expenses table now.

Rob: can you change my voting to this.... i missed,thanks

He has integrity, I trust his info, I think we only need a PR spokesperson for campaign purposes, but not one to replace Robs post contents on the forum.

Rob= concept  of BBP is great,but what i wrote= we need massive PR guru,bloggers=ány proffesinal person and more bloggers,advisors...

I cant change anything - I dont have access, but when I set up the poll, I selected User can Change Vote, please try changing your vote.

BiblePay discussion / Integrity Of BiblePay
« on: October 21, 2018, 11:49:37 pm »
I'm adding this poll to get a general feel about our trust level as a coin, and trust level for our algorithm.

This is a general poll in response to a message I received where the person claimed I was not operating in a democratic manner, and in general, an attempt to gather the feel of the trust level of the community.

The IT work I do is so minimal I just lump it in with the PR work I do


1. Social is the combination of Twitter, Reddit, Discord, Telegram and Bitcointalk.

Three to Four times a day I read through Twitter tweets to see ones we can click like on, see ones we can retweet, see ones we can comment on, and see which tweets I can use to spread news to our community.

And multiple times a day I read every Bitcointalk message

I also poke into multiple other competitiors discords/telegrams/reddits and read all of their latest posts peridoically

Any news I see, I spread to all platforms, and each platform has different formatting
like with Twitter I edit images and add emojis and hashtags

Your paying me to spread BiblePay news to the world,
and the world crypto news to BiblePay for basically $10 a day


2. I charge for testing, Ive charged multiple times in the past and Ive promoted publically that I would vote yes on anyone to be paid for testing, I believe everyone should be paid for their work.

Rob, just a few weeks ago in testnet you were asking:
Where is everyone? Why is no one helping in testnet?

The people doing work should be rewarded, that is good business.


Last month I donated the 2nd two weeks of my work,
I plan to continue doing the same until our value goes up 3-4x


Rob If you think you can do what Im doing for Social in 1 hour every 2 weeks,
that sounds like immense value and savings, when can you start? ;)

Thanks Togo for your answers.  I suppose you answered my questions appropriately :(.

I suppose we can take the rest of the conversation offline- about backup plans for an official reddit and twitter account, etc.

Based purely on charging biblepay for testing and being disrespectful in your answer to me when I was only asking a truly viable question, I vote to abstain.

Archived Proposals / October Payroll and IT Expenses
« on: October 19, 2018, 01:14:24 pm »
To partially fund some of my own programming hours, I would like to submit Github commits for the core biblepay wallet from
May 1 2018 through June 30th 2018 (I am including two months of work this month since I spent at least 40 hours moving between the end of May and during June):

Commits on Jun 18, 2018
biblepay_sk update  …

OrbisPictus committed on Jun 18
Commits on Jun 16, 2018 Upgrade  …

biblepay committed on Jun 16 Upgrade  …

biblepay committed on Jun 16
Commits on Jun 15, 2018 - Leisure Upgrade  …

biblepay committed on Jun 15 Upgrade  …

biblepay committed on Jun 15 Upgrade  …

biblepay committed on Jun 15
Commits on Jun 13, 2018 Upgrade  …

biblepay committed on Jun 13
Commits on Jun 12, 2018  …

biblepay committed on Jun 12
Commits on Jun 11, 2018 Upgrade  …

biblepay committed on Jun 11 - Leisure upgrade, Testnet version for June Mandatory Release  …

biblepay committed on Jun 11
Commits on May 9, 2018 Upgrade  …

biblepay committed on May 9

Commits on Jun 29, 2018 Upgrade  …

biblepay committed on Jun 29
Commits on Jun 28, 2018 Upgrade  …

biblepay committed on Jun 28 Upgrade  …

biblepay committed on Jun 28
Commits on Jun 26, 2018 Upgrade  …

biblepay committed on Jun 26
Merge pull request #27 from thesnat21/master  …

biblepay committed on Jun 26
Merge pull request #26 from OrbisPictus/patch-2  …

biblepay committed on Jun 26
Merge pull request #18 from sunk818/patch-1  …

biblepay committed on Jun 26
Merge pull request #17 from biblepay/add-code-of-conduct-1  …

biblepay committed on Jun 26

Commits on Jun 20, 2018 Upgrade  …

biblepay committed on Jun 20
Commits on Jun 19, 2018  …

biblepay committed on Jun 19

Maintained BiblePay Pool in May (as related to assisting users with writing orphans, paying for upvoted letters, and code changes
related to orphan business objects):  16 hours total

For a grand total programming time of
   (40 hrs per week * 4 weeks) = 160 hours @ 40.00 per hour = $6400 (over two months)

For a Grand Total Proposal of :  $6,400.00


?6471.00/.000515 (CoinMarketCap) = 12.5 million biblepay
Since I don't want to exceed 50% of the IT budget, I'll cap this proposal at 3.5 million and gift the rest to biblepay.

Thank you for your consideration.

I agree.

Imo, I think if I was browsing Id wonder 'what is cancer mining?', it might make me curious enough to check it out - but anyway I was able to add CPU and MASTERNODE, and now the size of the heading is maxxed out.

Archived Proposals / Re: Ban Slovakia from Talking for 6 months
« on: October 17, 2018, 07:25:19 am »
I didnt want to get in the middle of this drama, I was hoping things would work out naturally, thesnat kind of forced my hand into talking by risking exposing my previous conversations with him, but I also felt maybe its finally time for you to hear what I have seen Rob given the continued drama between parties.

Do we need a clear set of forum rules posted somewhere?

1. Do not make assumptions or false statements
2. Talk in a nice tone and manner, be polite and appreciative
3. Be willing to do work/research/experience, or Find someone who can, People are busy

Some sort of 3 strike your out system would be interesting,

I made this thread because Slovakia upset me enough to where I lost motivation to do any work for the day, and it wasnt the first time it had happened, and I knew he was probably effecting other team members, Ive since clicked ignore on his profile, but to be good PR person I have to know everything everyone is saying so I click unignore every time he posts, sigh

I worry about the emotional wellbeing of the people doing work. I dont think most people realize how much sacrifice is going on already and how close to the edge of sanity people are already at.

Im not sure how to vote on this proposal, I wish I didnt have to make it to begin with

I love you Togo.

Let's take a look at what Love is according to 1 Corinthians 13:
"Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres."


I really like the Forum Rules list.  It's really a good list that captures most of the problems we have had.

I'm going to add it to our BTCTalk OP post, and use it.

Archived Proposals / Re: October recurring sponsorships
« on: October 14, 2018, 07:41:58 pm »
Did Ginger email back about whether they would accept BiblePay or Bitcoin directly?
How much time should we give them to comply? I think its been about 3 weeks so far, I think a few months might be reasonable

Is Compassion willing to give us any PR? They've never talked about us publically,
yet they have received, probably the majority of our Charity funds.

I do not think that people trust their CEO Statement about us coming from an email:

Jim uses Twitter:
I wonder if we are getting filtered out from reaching his desk,
would be interesting to contact him directly
I could make a post about how much we have donated to Compassion and tag him in it

So I followed up with Ginger something like 3 times in 30 days, and she has *not* gotten back on it yet, but said she is working on it.  She is also working on forwarding my e-mail to Jimmy to IT (which I asked about 3 times also). 

Similar, the actual credit memo amount for our child terminations is not available til tomorrow so Im waiting on that to make an exact down to the penny balance (before we pay this months base bill) so we are on the same page with them.

On PR, Ginger replied to Jaap and said she had to forward this PR request to the PR dept to get approval.  I do not think they replied to Jaap after that.

On Jimmy, I friended him on linkedin, but he hasnt replied, and I got an email rejecting my email to him (but I was persistent and sent it another way but its sitting in ciqueue now).  Yes, if you can reach him via twitter, sounds good.  I think its unreasonable for someone not to trust his written signature on his e-mail cert to us however.  Its illegal to forge business letters in the US.

Archived Proposals / October recurring sponsorships
« on: October 13, 2018, 10:25:28 pm »
Each month we sponsor approximately 100 children at (309 children as of last month/ 100 as of October 15th 2018).

Rob, the lead dev pays the expense and uploads a copy of the receipt. 

The expenses can be viewed by navigating to | Expenses and viewing the PDF.

All funds raised by this endeavor are spent at, with any excess going to prepayments for the future (the prepaid amount is stored at compassion in the account).

To see the amounts we raised in the past by selling BBP for bitcoin see this page:
 See | Orphans | Orphan Fundraisers.  You can audit the total by finding the sum of all fundraisers.

I am requesting  6,000,000 bbp (which is approx $4000 - this is $200 more than our monthly base payment ($3800)).

Archived Proposals / Faucet Refill -
« on: October 13, 2018, 03:53:31 pm » has spent 326,100 on the faucet giveaways over the last 60 days.

75% of this activity was based on Jaap's airdrop coordination program (giving away 2000 then 1000 to new users) through the airdrop.

I am requesting 500,000 for a refill - primarily due to the expected influx of new boinc users coming in from non BiblePay teams starting October 16th 2018.

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