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Pre-Proposal Discussion / Listing on pecuniaplatform.io (no fees)
« Last post by MIP on February 04, 2019, 02:16:58 am »
I got this through discord:

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Hello
We can list biblepay. On https://pecuniaplatform.io/
This would cost you nothing we don’t have a listing fee
This would increase your exposure and offer your community a one-click service at a very convenient prices 1.99$/mo
We also offer you to show your banner during installation this give you access to over 50 new crypto masternode holders every day a targeted advertising
Only requirement is to announce the listing on your discord and retweet our announcement about biblepay listing
Thanks

As there is no listing fee we can go ahead and give exposure.
But we need to announce in Discord and Tweeter

What do you think?
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Archived Proposals / Re: Re-Enable Team BiblePay Requirement in PODC
« Last post by sunk818 on February 02, 2019, 12:40:04 am »
nobody will be guessing who intened what, if you want something, write it down to source code

btw i have enough coins to cover whole rac, but i dont have reason to use them all

Why you don't stake more BBP? Did you put BBP in sanctuaries (masternodes)?

The exploit is being addressed and dev has right in the meantime to put in workarounds. It doesn't have to source code change. It can be kicking people off the team, warning people by DM, etc.  This is normal software patching cycle.  There should be consequence like you not being able to participate for one month, so honest miners can recover what they lost from you. Or you give back what you took. From there, different talk can happen.
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@ 616 could you maybe explain your solution in greater detail?


This is what 616 suggested a potential solution to the recent issue with understakers that receiving 100% PoDC rewards.


@ Rob - Is a scenario like 616 possible to do?
Does it require a lot of effort?
If for any reason, could the wallet holder unlock the tx and send it elsewhere?
The mechanism of locking, then unlocking to create another tx to lock sounds complicated?


Do other aspects of the wallet expect an unlocked tx to operate correctly? (exec podcupdate, exec bankroll, send tx, etc)

https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=358.msg5389#msg5389



Re: Re-Enable Team BiblePay Requirement in PODC
« Reply #11 on: 2019-01-31, 11:17:44 »
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Regardless of if the system lets this behavior occur or not, it goes against what the system says it should do.  So ultimately, a user that was honorable would have said, "hey Rob, this is not working as you intended it to".


I think the real solution is for PoDC payments to work like this:


PoDCUpdate looks and sees what you need for stake given your RAC
PoDCUpdate does a transaction going for 110% of the necessary stake
The Transaction becomes locked
The next time PoDCUpdate runs, it checks if the locked transaction exceeds the minimum required for your RAC, if so, no new transaction, if not, it does a new transaction


When the Payment is triggered, it ensures that all transactions for stake are still locked (much like with a MN payout).
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Active Discussions / Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving
« Last post by Rob Andrews on February 01, 2019, 10:49:03 am »
We have reports of people setting up tithe=1 (early adopters) and they are donated ~200BBP every 4 hours to Orphan Foundation.

Accessing the wiki and including a note about not using tithe=1 until go live date will be useful. I'm planning to send out the newsletter tonight.

Yeah, Im going to do some personal tests now.  Finally upgraded my windows node.

We should basically confirm that anyone who Isnt auto tithing has no dimensional balance or an error in the debug.log.
And that others who do have a balance can auto tithe.

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Archived Proposals / Re: Re-Enable Team BiblePay Requirement in PODC
« Last post by sunk818 on February 01, 2019, 05:22:46 am »
Regardless of if the system lets this behavior occur or not, it goes against what the system says it should do.  So ultimately, a user that was honorable would have said, "hey Rob, this is not working as you intended it to".

I think the real solution is for PoDC payments to work like this:

PoDCUpdate looks and sees what you need for stake given your RAC
PoDCUpdate does a transaction going for 110% of the necessary stake
The Transaction becomes locked
The next time PoDCUpdate runs, it checks if the locked transaction exceeds the minimum required for your RAC, if so, no new transaction, if not, it does a new transaction

When the Payment is triggered, it ensures that all transactions for stake are still locked (much like with a MN payout).

I think you technically only need 90% to get 100% reward (e.g. 20 BBP for 1 RAC). So, I think the ceiling could be 100% and you already have a 10% buffer.
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Pre-Proposal Discussion / Re: Payment Gateway offer
« Last post by sunk818 on January 31, 2019, 11:57:02 pm »
I just sold some altcoins for LTC using free desktop product called Open Bazaar.  They let you accept various major crypto.

I don't know how you did the Walmart API thing for $15 Subway Gift Card, but having a way to buy products & services within wallet would be cool. You already have IPFS which is neat idea. Gift cards, but digital would be even better. No shipping fee. Since crypto is secure one-way, digital gift cards would be a no brainer. There's no risk to the seller and funds are guaranteed.
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Active Discussions / Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving
« Last post by sunk818 on January 31, 2019, 09:47:26 pm »
We have reports of people setting up tithe=1 (early adopters) and they are donated ~200BBP every 4 hours to Orphan Foundation.

Accessing the wiki and including a note about not using tithe=1 until go live date will be useful. I'm planning to send out the newsletter tonight.
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Archived Proposals / Re: Re-Enable Team BiblePay Requirement in PODC
« Last post by capo on January 31, 2019, 05:39:34 pm »
nobody will be guessing who intened what, if you want something, write it down to source code

btw i have enough coins to cover whole rac, but i dont have reason to use them all

i'm not asking you to leave this, change it if you want, if you change it, i will be using new rules - of course if somebody uncover them :)

payouts are not given by 'who has how big spirit' ...
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Archived Proposals / Re: Re-Enable Team BiblePay Requirement in PODC
« Last post by thesnat21 on January 31, 2019, 02:48:09 pm »
it will be cheating if you have 10m rac and stake only 10m and receive somehow 100%...
but if you stake 200m as needed (does not matter how), then it is not cheating, system is set to work this way

The window was larger for people who could not get on and update..   It was not intended for people to stake, and then move your money to another wallet and stake again with the same coin.

If you want to help the coin, buy the stake for what you are making.

What you are asking us to leave in place is basically 0 staking requirement.

Meanwhile over 700k of the rewards taken from people who are acting in the spirit of the system, and actually contributing to the coin.
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Active Discussions / Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving
« Last post by Rob Andrews on January 31, 2019, 02:15:57 pm »
Rob that's totally up to you.

I think you revoked access for everyone for fear of spam/defacing.

I'm preparing a newsletter for you to review and wanted to make sure the PoG documentation (since this is the biggest change in the last 90 days) is correct and up to date.

I'll email you - thanks.
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