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Active Discussions / Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving
« Last post by Rob Andrews on December 12, 2018, 04:32:23 pm »
Makes sense Rob. Fro. The consumer side I'd prefer to Max tithe with very little change left over.  With the exec bankroll feature and some small change amounts, it may be a moot point.

Also, I'm confused by pog reward amounts.

One new wallet never tithed (too new) but I've been receiving pog rewards.

And then other times pog reward goes to non-tithe address. Is pog reward actually mined reward?


I was just looking at some of my POG rewards and I think I might know why you think some are mining that are POG.
First, if it says "POG REWARD" regardless of the amount it should be an actual POG.  The ones that say "MINED" are the reaper payments.

The confusing part:  If you are in a payment tier that pays 100%, that reaper reward is like 100 bbp and You as pog recipient get a massive amount, like 4000, making it look like a mining payment but it is really a pool payment.  This happens if that block didnt have a sanc payment on it.


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Production Proposals / Re: Use Togo's Bitcointalk ANN Redesign
« Last post by togoshigekata on December 12, 2018, 04:21:25 pm »
Rob, all I really care about is increasing number of conversions/investors for BiblePay,
I believe my design is better than your current design in that regard

Please merge my design based on its own merits
and not judge or block using it because of whatever drama is in that thread
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Active Discussions / Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving
« Last post by Rob Andrews on December 12, 2018, 04:11:01 pm »
1.1.6.4d-Mandatory Upgrade for TestNet

- Fixed bug in tithe inductor
- Add ability to force a tithe in (for people who want to donate to foundation regardless of diff) - the tithe doesnt count in the pool - this is in sendcoins UI
- Added exec istithelegal txid - Allows a user to verify a tithes legality - good for debugging purposes
- Modified exec tithe amount - To also accept just the amount.

Note that this version will disconnect older clients, so please, everyone upgrade.
Since this version considers a block before 1164 a bad block, we will need to do quite a bit of resyncing to agree, please lets check our blockhash.


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Active Discussions / Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving
« Last post by Rob Andrews on December 12, 2018, 04:05:53 pm »
Makes sense Rob. Fro. The consumer side I'd prefer to Max tithe with very little change left over.  With the exec bankroll feature and some small change amounts, it may be a moot point.

Also, I'm confused by pog reward amounts.

One new wallet never tithed (too new) but I've been receiving pog rewards.

And then other times pog reward goes to non-tithe address. Is pog reward actually mined reward?

The new wallet might be mining and reaping (solving the block itself).  If it didnt tithe, it cant receive pool rewards unless you copied the wallet (I hope no one is copying wallets in testnet however because that would really make it hard for us, we should all be using distinct wallets with distinct addresses and nicknames in testnet so we can reconcile everything).

The pog reward should only go to the TITHE address (its stored in the tithe), so you are probably referring to a mining reward.

To see what a tx is actually composed of just double click it in QT in the recieving list and look for the vout number.  A vout[0] means mining reward.  A vout[1] is usually masternode reward (or pool reward).  vout[2+] is a POG pool reward.

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Active Discussions / Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving
« Last post by Rob Andrews on December 12, 2018, 04:02:43 pm »
Also, is pog reward a block that can process other transactions like Joe sending bbp to an exchange?

The POG reward is a coinbase, so it takes 120 confirms to become spendable (just like mining revenue).

On a side note, all the pool rewards for one block are contained in one transaction.

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Active Discussions / Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving
« Last post by Rob Andrews on December 12, 2018, 04:00:37 pm »
Should I report issues or wait for new version?

Please wait, I believe we have to re-test everything in this new version as we now use a new more reliable method to induct legal tithes into the pool from the block.  Also, all prior versions had a bug in the actual CoinValue of the difficulty (it was off by COIN - a constant in the code), so yeah we need to re-test everything.

So Im thinking on our newer testing, we should do a limited number of tithes, like say 10 for example, and write them down in notepad with the block number (IE total amount and block number).  Then sit back and see exactly how many were inducted and exactly what rewards occur in 205 blocks.  This will give us a very accurate picture if 100% of the tithes are going in the pool, and the ratio of rewards per tithe BBP.

On a side note I added a new feature called 'exec istithelegal txid' - you can use this to test a tithe.

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Production Proposals / Re: Masternode Buzz - DailyBuzz Sponsor - Rob Interview
« Last post by togoshigekata on December 12, 2018, 03:59:55 pm »
"We have published the daily buzz on Twitter:
https://twitter.com/Masternode_Buzz/status/1072969431180083201

and our website:
https://masternode.buzz/dailybuzz-wednesday-12-december-2018/

We won't publish any new articles for at least 12 hours, so the article with your logo will be in the top position on our main website: https://masternode.buzz "

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I jumped the gun and paid already,
I think the interview Rob did was a perfect catalyst/candidate to jump on something like this,
if I dont get funded for this thats okay, but I hope I do!
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Production Proposals / Re: Use Discourse as Main Forum
« Last post by togoshigekata on December 12, 2018, 03:55:52 pm »
Hey Rob, thank you for your valuable feedback on this

On the topic of change, I personally get attached to original GUIs,
for instance, I still used the original BiblePay wallet theme for a loooong time before finally switching to the bezaleel theme,
and I got upset when Gmail forced new GUI on me haha

Forum wise, I like SMF / phpBB layout vs the Discourse layout, the discourse layout is weird, I like what Im used to

But I do like this quote: "The only constant is change"
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Heraclitus

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Comparison of Internet forum software
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_forum_software

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Proposal wise, I agree this proposal lacks any funding,
its more of a "Should we use Discourse over SMF?", I probably should have worded it that way or started it as a pre-proposal,
I think Im trying to push consensus through now vs letting it sit for months in discussions

Im not sure what an accurate time estimate is, but it only took me about 2-3 hours to set everything up,
for switching over, add an hour to switch DNS records,  add in hours for migrating accounts/threads/posts
and add in hours for learning a new system, and add in buffer for unknowns
I think the 80 hours estimate is very high, maybe 20-30 hours combined would be my estimate

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Also, any time Ive spent on this Im donating to BiblePay
Im cool with whatever decision gets made, just offering this as an interesting alternative
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Production Proposals / Masternode Buzz - DailyBuzz Sponsor - Rob Interview
« Last post by togoshigekata on December 12, 2018, 03:12:12 pm »
Masternode Buzz - Advertising & Press Releases
https://masternode.buzz/advertising/

Daily Buzz
https://masternode.buzz/tag/dailybuzz/

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== Sponsor Message:
BiblePay (BBP) Interview with Rob Andrews, Founder and Lead Developer
Link: https://info.qiex.com/story-from-biblepaybbp/

== Corresponding Image:
https://i.imgur.com/azDhqfD.png
Link: https://www.biblepay.org/

== Header Image Logo:
https://i.imgur.com/0pyHpr6.png

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Total = 0.034 BTC (about $119)
At 0.00000011 BTC per BBP = 309,091 BBP
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Production Proposals / Re: Use Discourse as Main Forum
« Last post by togoshigekata on December 12, 2018, 03:02:31 pm »
PIVX uses Discourse: https://forum.pivx.org/
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