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Pre-Proposal Discussion / Re: Add Proof-Of-Orphan-Mining
« Last post by Rob Andrews on November 15, 2018, 05:17:45 pm »
Interesting thought,  I would say though if it gets to the point of creating corp's that would be a whole new level of complexity that makes today's efforts seem simple.. 

Still mulling this idea over,   there are some other thoughts in my mind I just cannot access them clearly yet.. i need some sleep haha


Right, branch offices sound way more complicated than plug n play.  But we can check this for accuracy, but a home user with a contact name of "Biblepay - Username" and a simple po box without a 'corporation' will probably also work fine (since the bill payments to the account number are legal deductible personal expenses).

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Pre-Proposal Discussion / Re: Add Proof-Of-Orphan-Mining
« Last post by thesnat21 on November 15, 2018, 04:06:01 pm »
The other thing I thought of this morning regarding account security:  If we do some due diligence we could potentially set this feature up as our Orphan DAC- another words, instead of viewing the home user as being reimbursed, maybe we recommend the home users be 'branch offices' of our DAO.  We tell them to setup dedicated accounts as "BiblePay DAO - Director Slovakia", IE using your BBP contact name and a personal PO Box, then for tax purposes you keep a copy of your billpay expenses to compassion to that account number, and of course the mining income - and optionally create a home based S corp.  In this type of setup Biblepay partially owns each home account (although we wont do anything with it or log in as we promised above) but it makes the set-up much more professional in the sense that the account is a specific branch of biblepay giving us the known right to scan the GID List from our asset list of branch offices.

Interesting thought,  I would say though if it gets to the point of creating corp's that would be a whole new level of complexity that makes today's efforts seem simple.. 

Still mulling this idea over,   there are some other thoughts in my mind I just cannot access them clearly yet.. i need some sleep haha
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Pre-Proposal Discussion / Re: Add Proof-Of-Orphan-Mining
« Last post by Rob Andrews on November 15, 2018, 03:42:24 pm »
I wanted to re-clarify something MIP asked the other day:  In a nutshell this proposal does not decrease POW security.  This is because the "lessened electricity expense" we aim to divert to Orphan Sponsorships is at the expense of the PODC budget, not at the expense of the POW heat miners - IE the same controller wallets keep hashing.  (It could be argued that each added POOM miner adds security, but thats speculative so I won't say that for now).

The other thing I thought of this morning regarding account security:  If we do some due diligence we could potentially set this feature up as our Orphan DAC- another words, instead of viewing the home user as being reimbursed, maybe we recommend the home users be 'branch offices' of our DAO.  We tell them to setup dedicated accounts as "BiblePay DAO - Director Slovakia", IE using your BBP contact name and a personal PO Box, then for tax purposes you keep a copy of your billpay expenses to compassion to that account number, and of course the mining income - and optionally create a home based S corp.  In this type of setup Biblepay partially owns each home account (although we wont do anything with it or log in as we promised above) but it makes the set-up much more professional in the sense that the account is a specific branch of biblepay giving us the known right to scan the GID List from our asset list of branch offices. 

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Pre-Proposal Discussion / Re: Add Proof-Of-Orphan-Mining
« Last post by Rob Andrews on November 15, 2018, 03:33:30 pm »
What's the reasoning behind moving ahead with the "extremely easy to setup" POOM before first making PODC/Boinc extremely easy to setup?

In addition to what thesnat said, the proposal does not actually propose to remove PODC, please understand that POOM competes against the PODC budget.

Next, as far as making PODC easier to use, you can see from the latest releases - that we are trying to do that - with the buttons and the new rpc commands - but its not an easy infrastructure to slim down to one click mining - as there are many moving parts.  Compiling boinc, compiling rosetta@home, overtaking boincs cpid total credit delta mechanism, handling 20 years of intercommunication RPC call codes, dealing with states of partially installed miners in any state possible, so, explaining this in a non-programming way:  one could investigate due diligence for the hours to simplify it - it could take a lot of labor - maybe it could be done - maybe not - it depends on what resources we allocate to it, etc.

Otoh, I think it truly would be an asset to have the potential to launch a PR campaign against some ability of one-click mining.  We almost had it with our initial launch - simple CPU mining - but unfortunately the botnet in Japan took that infrastructure over.  Now we know a lot more info about mining, and with things like CPIDs or POOM public keys, we can limit a botnets effectiveness by at least requiring miners to have a key (to mine in our current state).

Another way to put it is:  If we want a campaign to grow biblepay - it appears BOINC is currently causing stagnation - maybe its too hard - maybe its the high UTXO requirement - I dont know.  The question is will something like POOM result in 1 new net user per day, or not. 

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Pre-Proposal Discussion / Re: Add Proof-Of-Orphan-Mining
« Last post by thesnat21 on November 15, 2018, 02:54:44 pm »
What's the reasoning behind moving ahead with the "extremely easy to setup" POOM before first making PODC/Boinc extremely easy to setup?

No moving ahead yet.. this is just a discussion phase.

Though the simplicity factor does weigh in..   Someone on BCT mentioned the vocabulary/acronym/learning curve to get familiar with this coin...   Perhaps this is something we should be looking at first.

The risk is if/as BTC price falls further it will be harder to keep up with our current obligations (even at a diminished capacity)
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Pre-Proposal Discussion / Re: Add Proof-Of-Orphan-Mining
« Last post by zthomasz on November 15, 2018, 12:32:42 pm »
What's the reasoning behind moving ahead with the "extremely easy to setup" POOM before first making PODC/Boinc extremely easy to setup?
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General Support / Re: Unstaked Smartphone Mining - Payment/Wallet Address Queries
« Last post by manu123 on November 14, 2018, 08:52:05 pm »
Thank you for the update. I will resume the task once rectified.
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Announcements / 2018 November 14 updates:
« Last post by thesnat21 on November 14, 2018, 08:49:35 pm »
Updates:

  • Rob posted an update to pool.biblepay.org : new Detail Drill in capability for : Leaderboard View, Superblock View, Rosetta Machine Leaderboard View and Rosetta Unbanked Report.  This allows the user to see the highlighted record without referring back to the header.
  • Jaap has finished updating the www.biblepay.org website with the ‘five fold vision’ (This is the last feature of the round of website updates Jaap and Togo created about 45 days ago, when we undertook a campaign to make it easier to mine, explain, and invest in).  To see the vision, click on the main biblepay center bible logo.
  • explorer.biblepay.org is synced
  • new explorer: https://www.biblepay.ovh/  currently syncing.
  • Biblepay  1.1.6.0-Leisure released, with some fixes for Mac/Linux setups
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General Support / Re: Unstaked Smartphone Mining - Payment/Wallet Address Queries
« Last post by thesnat21 on November 14, 2018, 10:50:17 am »
Manu:

We found the issue,   the problem is the CPU type of your device is reporting differently than we expect.

We are working on some changes, and should have this resolved soon. 

It may take a client update to enforce the changes, we are working through the details.
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2388064.msg47897879#msg47897879

Please test the new 1.1.6.0. and confirm that you can connect with boinc client (once you download it and place it in the forementioned folder)

Thank you

http://biblepay.org/biblepaycore.dmg
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