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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY - TESTNET THREAD - TESTING SANCTUARIES FOR GO LIVE AT CHRISTMAS
« on: October 14, 2017, 12:48:56 PM »
Alright everyone, I believe we are now at the point where we need to perform end-to-end sanctuary testing!
Lets try to go through this process from start-finish to see what needs improvements
So first, log in to pool.biblepay.org and click Network: Testnet. If you are not in testnet mode, the proposals lists will be empty.
Next click Governance | Proposal List. You will see the list of Active proposals at the top (those not funded yet that need voted on) and then in the Funded List you will see those proposals that are already inside superblocks and paid.
NOTE: I will be adding a chart soon so we can see a graphical view of the proximity to funding per row one proposal is generating in popularity.
We need to simulate: Keeping compassion as a charity, Paying a single invoice, Paying multiple invoices in a superblock, Shooting down a proposal, and watching a proposal get paid (included in a superblock), verifying the budget, test inability to exceed the budget, and review a historical expense.
First lets test a dry run of the theoretical monthly recurring expense for compassion. I added a new proposal and it is ready to be voted on, for Octobers recurring orphan sponsorships (39,900 BBP). Click on Proposal List. Note the gobjectID in the second row of each item row (that is the Detail row). Copy the gobjectID to the clipboard (note - Clicking on the first line of each row allows you to View the proposal), so you need to double click the gobject id (62a9c8afaf2af86f3820d6d30a93b4f84b29927b66c88badf8ad9699a48e20a6) from the second row, (the row that says the Proposal Name hyphen the gobjectid). To vote on this for funding from your sanctuary issue this command:
The pool will actually update the row eventually with voting information also.
After the supermajority votes on it, the pool will create a budget item automatically that "fits" as many proposals as possible into a superblock (IE it will try to create a superblock for us), the pool has no power to vote, all it can do is suggest to the sanctuary network that "4 approved proposals can fit in superblock Y" and Y must be an upcoming superblock with at least enough lead time to be voted on (this is called the budget maturity period). We need to test that also.
So please go ahead and vote on this proposal, and we will watch to see if it moves through the phases.
Also, I wanted to mention, for the very first Discussion URL, I used the wiki page just to get started. But, technically, we need to use a Forum topic for this purpose so that other Biblepayers and Sanctuaries can discuss the validity in an open forum of the actual item. For example, if someone submits a proposal to place a BiblePay ATM with a "medicianal weed" dispenser in it, the community should stand up and say: Wait I thought we were a Christian community isnt this going to tarnish our image, and coax the sanctuaries to vote it down.
Initiative II:
Id also like to ask someone here, who has a running sanctuary, to go ahead and create a Mock up proposal with a real testnet discussion URL, one that we can vote on, so we can test the "multiple proposals in one budget and in one superblock" issue. Who is up for it? Click on Proposals| Add.
Create a discussion URL on Forum.biblepay.org in the Testnet Forum, as a new Topic. Ensure you can post to it (test it). Use that as the discussion URL.
Enter an amount below 10000 BBP as the "amount" because the superblock budget is only 72000 on testnet and the orphan budget is already at 39,900.
Add the Proposal and verify it exists and notify us so that we can discuss and vote on it.
And finally, please, someone who wants to make a really negative and tacky proposal, go ahead and make one, and let us know, one that we deliberately want to shoot down so that it misses the budget.
Lets try to go through this process from start-finish to see what needs improvements
So first, log in to pool.biblepay.org and click Network: Testnet. If you are not in testnet mode, the proposals lists will be empty.
Next click Governance | Proposal List. You will see the list of Active proposals at the top (those not funded yet that need voted on) and then in the Funded List you will see those proposals that are already inside superblocks and paid.
NOTE: I will be adding a chart soon so we can see a graphical view of the proximity to funding per row one proposal is generating in popularity.
We need to simulate: Keeping compassion as a charity, Paying a single invoice, Paying multiple invoices in a superblock, Shooting down a proposal, and watching a proposal get paid (included in a superblock), verifying the budget, test inability to exceed the budget, and review a historical expense.
First lets test a dry run of the theoretical monthly recurring expense for compassion. I added a new proposal and it is ready to be voted on, for Octobers recurring orphan sponsorships (39,900 BBP). Click on Proposal List. Note the gobjectID in the second row of each item row (that is the Detail row). Copy the gobjectID to the clipboard (note - Clicking on the first line of each row allows you to View the proposal), so you need to double click the gobject id (62a9c8afaf2af86f3820d6d30a93b4f84b29927b66c88badf8ad9699a48e20a6) from the second row, (the row that says the Proposal Name hyphen the gobjectid). To vote on this for funding from your sanctuary issue this command:
Code: [Select]
gobject vote-many 62a9c8afaf2af86f3820d6d30a93b4f84b29927b66c88badf8ad9699a48e20a6 funding yes
The pool will actually update the row eventually with voting information also.
After the supermajority votes on it, the pool will create a budget item automatically that "fits" as many proposals as possible into a superblock (IE it will try to create a superblock for us), the pool has no power to vote, all it can do is suggest to the sanctuary network that "4 approved proposals can fit in superblock Y" and Y must be an upcoming superblock with at least enough lead time to be voted on (this is called the budget maturity period). We need to test that also.
So please go ahead and vote on this proposal, and we will watch to see if it moves through the phases.
Also, I wanted to mention, for the very first Discussion URL, I used the wiki page just to get started. But, technically, we need to use a Forum topic for this purpose so that other Biblepayers and Sanctuaries can discuss the validity in an open forum of the actual item. For example, if someone submits a proposal to place a BiblePay ATM with a "medicianal weed" dispenser in it, the community should stand up and say: Wait I thought we were a Christian community isnt this going to tarnish our image, and coax the sanctuaries to vote it down.
Initiative II:
Id also like to ask someone here, who has a running sanctuary, to go ahead and create a Mock up proposal with a real testnet discussion URL, one that we can vote on, so we can test the "multiple proposals in one budget and in one superblock" issue. Who is up for it? Click on Proposals| Add.
Create a discussion URL on Forum.biblepay.org in the Testnet Forum, as a new Topic. Ensure you can post to it (test it). Use that as the discussion URL.
Enter an amount below 10000 BBP as the "amount" because the superblock budget is only 72000 on testnet and the orphan budget is already at 39,900.
Add the Proposal and verify it exists and notify us so that we can discuss and vote on it.
And finally, please, someone who wants to make a really negative and tacky proposal, go ahead and make one, and let us know, one that we deliberately want to shoot down so that it misses the budget.
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