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  • Rob Andrews
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Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving
« Reply #210 on: January 01, 2019, 11:03:01 am »
Just downloaded 1.1.7.6 and running a testnet flag and nickname=ichthus220. What do I do next?

Do you need any testnet coins?

Please test out the chat feature, lets see if we can see each other in the chat room.




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Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving
« Reply #211 on: January 01, 2019, 11:13:15 am »
Rob,

Bingo :D
I've downloaded 1176 and after start it crashed in prod and testnet too.
After adding "boincmetrics=-1" to config all works like a charm :)

I'm now on block 99830 with hash 58c842b0aa157e2059479d9ab2a1ffd4ae3f17da99f91965429c191421e658d6.
I hope I'm on good chain :)

Now I'm waiting if thithes will work in auto mode after startup unlock.


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Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving
« Reply #212 on: January 01, 2019, 11:17:56 am »
Now I'm waiting if thithes will work in auto mode after startup unlock.
Ok.. so it looks, that startup unlock works in GUI now and autotithes are working.
Good job.


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Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving
« Reply #213 on: January 01, 2019, 11:21:11 am »
Ok.. so it looks, that startup unlock works in GUI now and autotithes are working.
Good job.

Thank you for helping us make a better product Orbis.  Im also committed to adding more UI for easier to use POG.



  • MIP
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Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving
« Reply #214 on: January 01, 2019, 12:49:23 pm »
This is what I get

Code: [Select]
exec titheinfo
{
  "Command": "titheinfo",
  "POG Difficulty": 15151.39403913321,
  "24 Hour Tithes": 11350.8,
  "pog_diff_chain_tip": 15151.39403913321,
  "min_coin_age": 13.87,
  "min_coin_amt": 5780.66,
  "max_tithe_amount": 230.87,
  "Tithable_Coin_Quantity": 0,
  "Tithable_Largest_Coin": 0,
  "Tithable_Coin_Avg_Age": 0,
  "Tithable_Total_Coin_Balance": 0,
  "Tithability_Amount": 0,
  "Tithability_Summary": "NO",
  "Tithe_Cap": 49096,
  "Daily_Miner_Emissions": 96188,
  "Pool_Emissions": 76950.40000000001,
  "Lowest_ROI%": 78.5,
  "Highest_ROI%": 339
}

I have 370000 coins so I guess I don't need more, but I don't know if I can start tithing now.



Code: [Select]
getmininginfo

{
  "blocks": 99878,
  "blocks_tip": 99878,
  "currentblocksize": 1000,
  "currentblocktx": 0,
  "difficulty_podc": 6.964404506368992,
  "difficulty_pow": 0.1056952030005922,
  "difficulty": 6.964404506368992,
...
  "pool_url": "",
  "poolmining_use_ssl": false,
  "pool_high_tithe": 5048.1,
  "pool_my_total_tithes": 0,
  "pool_total_tithes": 10929.6,
  "pog_difficulty": 14589.16343254311,
  "pog_min_coin_age": 13.36,
  "pog_min_coin_amount": 5566.19,
  "pog_max_tithe_amount": 233.44
}

If I tithe

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19:42:13

exec tithe 1000
{
  "Command": "tithe",
  "Error": "Sorry, your tithe exceeds the maximum allowed tithe for this difficulty level.  (See getmininginfo)."
}

or

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exec tithe 200
{
  "Command": "tithe",
  "TXID": "0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000"
}

I guess that if min coin age is 13.87 days and mine were generated today I will have to wait 13.87 days?

The chat is not working for me (apparently). You may want to contact me perhaps it works the other way.


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Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving
« Reply #215 on: January 01, 2019, 04:22:42 pm »
MIP: I'm having issue with submitting PoG. Hopefully I can explain this clearly. Each wallet balance is less than the min amount needed... (either because I did bankroll or privatesend mixing three weeks ago). So, each wallet balance is either 1k, 100, or 10. They are all from Dec 10. Individually, none of the coin value is 5.7k, but a combination of say 6 x 1k wallet balance would work.

Yet, I am unable to donate to foundation for PoG reward.

Rob: So, a specific input has to have a balance larger than min coin value?  It can't be a combination of eligible min coin age balances to add up to the min coin value? So, it is possible that over time some inputs will never be eligible because min coin value's threshold is too high?

I can see where it gets messy if you have to take multiple inputs to create a min coin value and see that they "old enough" for MinCoinAge as well.


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Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving
« Reply #216 on: January 01, 2019, 04:26:20 pm »
It also makes me think that PoG rewards (under 1k BBP) and mined blocks (5k) may never be eligible for PoG with enough PoG users. You'd need to combine balances with exec bankroll?


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Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving
« Reply #217 on: January 01, 2019, 04:50:59 pm »
Thank you for helping us make a better product Orbis.  Im also committed to adding more UI for easier to use POG.
Rob it will be fine to have point 1 from my "first" post here.
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... It will be nice to have one part of menu with POG (like "Distibuted computing" for PODC now). ... My idea is to divide pogpool command to two parts. First one would be list of users in pool and second part would be tier list with user stats. Now it's no problem to have it together but imagine output of this command when there will be 100 and more users ;) It must be comprehensible for newbies and trust me "exec" command is not so clear. Normal users wants all visible with one click on button.


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Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving
« Reply #218 on: January 01, 2019, 06:13:42 pm »
It also makes me think that PoG rewards (under 1k BBP) and mined blocks (5k) may never be eligible for PoG with enough PoG users. You'd need to combine balances with exec bankroll?

First, we are all in the same boat.  So if "none of us" could tithe then the difficulty would be zero.
(So then everyone could tithe).

Second, difficulty fluctuates through the day and averages to be at a level above where people can use the old coins.

Third, the idea is to be strategic.  If you feel diff is going to be 20K most of the time then you would create bank notes of that size, let them age, and use them.

It takes a little bit of effort - but everyone can eventually participate if they create a few different size banknotes.

Then they can reuse those.



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Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving
« Reply #219 on: January 01, 2019, 06:15:52 pm »
This is what I get

Code: [Select]
exec titheinfo
{
  "Command": "titheinfo",
  "POG Difficulty": 15151.39403913321,
  "24 Hour Tithes": 11350.8,
  "pog_diff_chain_tip": 15151.39403913321,
  "min_coin_age": 13.87,
  "min_coin_amt": 5780.66,
  "max_tithe_amount": 230.87,
  "Tithable_Coin_Quantity": 0,
  "Tithable_Largest_Coin": 0,
  "Tithable_Coin_Avg_Age": 0,
  "Tithable_Total_Coin_Balance": 0,
  "Tithability_Amount": 0,
  "Tithability_Summary": "NO",
  "Tithe_Cap": 49096,
  "Daily_Miner_Emissions": 96188,
  "Pool_Emissions": 76950.40000000001,
  "Lowest_ROI%": 78.5,
  "Highest_ROI%": 339
}

I have 370000 coins so I guess I don't need more, but I don't know if I can start tithing now.



Code: [Select]
getmininginfo

{
  "blocks": 99878,
  "blocks_tip": 99878,
  "currentblocksize": 1000,
  "currentblocktx": 0,
  "difficulty_podc": 6.964404506368992,
  "difficulty_pow": 0.1056952030005922,
  "difficulty": 6.964404506368992,
...
  "pool_url": "",
  "poolmining_use_ssl": false,
  "pool_high_tithe": 5048.1,
  "pool_my_total_tithes": 0,
  "pool_total_tithes": 10929.6,
  "pog_difficulty": 14589.16343254311,
  "pog_min_coin_age": 13.36,
  "pog_min_coin_amount": 5566.19,
  "pog_max_tithe_amount": 233.44
}

If I tithe

Code: [Select]
19:42:13

exec tithe 1000
{
  "Command": "tithe",
  "Error": "Sorry, your tithe exceeds the maximum allowed tithe for this difficulty level.  (See getmininginfo)."
}

or

Code: [Select]
exec tithe 200
{
  "Command": "tithe",
  "TXID": "0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000"
}

I guess that if min coin age is 13.87 days and mine were generated today I will have to wait 13.87 days?

The chat is not working for me (apparently). You may want to contact me perhaps it works the other way.

Correct, 13.87 days if the diff was static - but it fluctuates.

When you say chat doesnt work, what did you try -  pm or public and what username did you page if it was PM?  (I havent been at the computer). 

(Ive tested them both across nodes and it appears to work though).



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Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving
« Reply #220 on: January 02, 2019, 02:29:24 am »
Correct, 13.87 days if the diff was static - but it fluctuates.

When you say chat doesnt work, what did you try -  pm or public and what username did you page if it was PM?  (I havent been at the computer). 

(Ive tested them both across nodes and it appears to work though).

I did both, public and PM. I see the screen empty at every moment. I am behind a NAT so I don't know if you need an IP in the internet like sancs or not.
In any case I will be online for the next 8 hours in case you want me to do some testing.


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Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving
« Reply #221 on: January 02, 2019, 05:03:03 am »
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11:58:24

exec titheinfo


11:58:24

{
  "Command": "titheinfo",
  "POG Difficulty": 13237.64755131691,
  "24 Hour Tithes": 9917.1,
  "pog_diff_chain_tip": 13237.64755131691,
  "min_coin_age": 12.12,
  "min_coin_amt": 5050.64,
  "max_tithe_amount": 239.6,
  "Tithable_Coin_Quantity": 0,
  "Tithable_Largest_Coin": 0,
  "Tithable_Coin_Avg_Age": 0,
  "Tithable_Total_Coin_Balance": 0,
  "Tithability_Amount": 0,
  "Tithability_Summary": "NO",
  "Tithe_Cap": 49096,
  "Daily_Miner_Emissions": 96188,
  "Pool_Emissions": 76950.40000000001,
  "Lowest_ROI%": 78.5,
  "Highest_ROI%": 388
}


11:59:04

exec tithe 1000


11:59:04

{
  "Command": "tithe",
  "Error": "Sorry, your tithe exceeds the maximum allowed tithe for this difficulty level.  (See getmininginfo)."
}


11:59:16

exec tithe 200


11:59:16

{
  "Command": "tithe",
  "TXID": "0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000"
}





where is problem?


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Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving
« Reply #222 on: January 02, 2019, 05:28:15 am »
Do you need any testnet coins?

Please test out the chat feature, lets see if we can see each other in the chat room.

I would like to try setting up sanctuary

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Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving
« Reply #223 on: January 02, 2019, 08:37:04 am »
I would like to try setting up sanctuary

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Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving
« Reply #224 on: January 02, 2019, 08:39:47 am »
I did both, public and PM. I see the screen empty at every moment. I am behind a NAT so I don't know if you need an IP in the internet like sancs or not.
In any case I will be online for the next 8 hours in case you want me to do some testing.

Ok, yeah, I went to sleep as I gassed out my room staining the nativity scene someone bought me for Christmas.

In this version, the public and private chat windows dont have history, so in Public mode you would have to leave the window open and minimized then you could see its changes later.  In private, we do have paging, we can test that later.

It uses the native clients communication layer, so the VPN and NAT should be OK.