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  • Rob Andrews
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Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving
« Reply #45 on: Today at 12:22:35 pm »
my maxtithamount is still only 297 bbp and still stoped my rewarding? where is problem? thanks

Every 205 blocks, your old tithe is "expired" in the pool (that is one day).

However in testnet we have two minute blocks (roughly) so each day in testnet is like 4 days in prod, meaning you need to keep tithing to stay in the pool (at least once every 205 blocks).

Keep track of your tithe txids if you want to track them and Ill point out the issue exactly.

So far from my end everything looks OK - the pool audit passed btw without any flaws found or math errors.



  • klondike
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Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving
« Reply #46 on: Today at 12:31:55 pm »
im still dont understand whats point for this

for newbie,when we start,what i have to do?

steps.

1.step  install bbp wallet
2.step  buy bbp from exchange or ie i have 330 000bbp in wallet
3.step  whats next?


  • Rob Andrews
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Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving
« Reply #47 on: Today at 01:16:59 pm »
im still dont understand whats point for this

for newbie,when we start,what i have to do?

steps.

1.step  install bbp wallet
2.step  buy bbp from exchange or ie i have 330 000bbp in wallet
3.step  whats next?


The difference is someone who buys 25000 bbp off the exchange can get started with POG almost instantly and receive mining rewards - wihtout buying expensive equipment or renting servers - their tithe total in 24 hours is the tithe_weight for the pool.  Its pretty simple to understand I think, as compared to understanding what you need to do to start PODC mining.

So the bbp miner single thread tries to send a tithe once every hour (this is a spork setting).  You can scan your log for (grep for) SendTithe.  In my case i have one exactly once per hour in the log with an error saying wallet unlock required (you need to leave your wallet unlocked in testnet if its encrypted).  I think in prod we may be able to either use the popup podc password to auto tithe.

Now do you get it?  In 24 hours all applicable tithes would be sent automatically, meaning the user is POG mining without learning anything.



  • klondike
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Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving
« Reply #48 on: Today at 01:20:21 pm »
omg.....please answer me
what is next step when i have 330 000 tBBP in wallet ....

stop write balast about nothing ....  please stop....


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Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving
« Reply #49 on: Today at 02:18:05 pm »
I think we need to work out some UI controls for tithing..

I don't believe it should be auto-on.   Though this makes for easy participation I feel the user should intentionally start this process (or risk people thinking we're a scam / stealing coins).

Klondike: i'll talk with you on IM,  I think you are expecting more than is required.


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Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving
« Reply #50 on: Today at 04:29:52 pm »
I think we need to work out some UI controls for tithing..

I don't believe it should be auto-on.   Though this makes for easy participation I feel the user should intentionally start this process (or risk people thinking we're a scam / stealing coins).

Klondike: i'll talk with you on IM,  I think you are expecting more than is required.

I dont really mind one way or another, but I actually thought "auto" would be the default, otherwise people will say we are intentionally trying to give the veterans more rewards.  But I see your point, I dont mind making the default =off, and we will require them to add 'tithing=auto' to the config for auto.

I did plan on thinking about a couple more controls also, like the tithe frequency.  They definiately should be able to override the default spork (which is 1 hr in testnet) by doing something like 'tithefrequency=86400' which would be equal to one day.

Let me know if you think of other controls, but we dont want to make it too complicated either. 


EDIT:

So for prod, I propose:

Default - if nothing set:
tithing=false
tithefrequency=spork_value_set_by_biblepay_devs

If a user sets them:

tithing=true
tithefrequency=Seconds_between_send


TitheCap:  Equal to 70% of our monthly POBH heat emissions (This gives miners a minimum of 30% profit on any day, and an unlimited max profit on a slow day)

Scope:  To expand POBH only for a few months, then we re-evaluate the impact this system made on bringing new users in the house. 


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