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Why are some Countries more expensive to call than other Countries from my BiblePay Phone?


Some smaller carriers do not have bilateral agreements:

Some carriers with cheaper international consumer rates have sister mobile networks in different european countries which means they are able to move traffic around their own networks in order to optimise their cost. Some carriers that do not have the ability to do this will have an agreement in place with different carriers in respective local markets and pay a fee to terminate international traffic onto other carrier networks. This increased cost will be passed onto the consumer.

Certain carriers may also have bi-lateral agreements in place with different operators to achieve lower cost of termination in certain countries. It is also possible for carriers to leverage high volumes to achieve lower rates based on traffic from their own mobile customers e.g. they may be able to run promotions for certain countries, increase traffic volumes and negotiate lower rates.

Carriers and aggregators focusing on the B2B market:

A few different quality bands are available on the market at different price points. Even the top voice providers have different quality/price brackets depending on the supplier as an example you can expect to see tiers of prices that are reflected by the success level of connecting each call, the audio quality you will experience, the number that the recipient sees and even the duration of rings that the recipient can hear.

Higher quality connections will have less hops in the supply chain and better infrastructure in place to achieve business critical termination.

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However I do think the hardware phone will be ready within 30 days if anyone wants to buy one!
We have a couple Philippines users,so rates fore Philippines would be nice.I have some Philipines here in my place to.

Hi Akkin,

Good news and less than good news.

The good news is the BBP phone can call the Philippines, the less than good is the rates are about 16 cents per minute.  I posted the reason above this post that some Countries are more expensive.

On to the "how" to call one of the restricted Countries:  By default our softphone (and hardware phone) doesn't allow you to call a country where the rate is greater than .05 cent a minute unless you put in a manual override for the Country in your wallet.

To authorize calling to the Philippines, simply do this:
Click on Phone | Rate Overrides
Add the country code "PH" to your list.

Once this is added, you will be able to call the Philippines.

Hardware phone should be out any hour.





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BIBLEPAY HARDWARE PHONE IS WORKING AND READY TO BE PURCHASED




Great news, we can start with the Grandstream GXP-1610 for $35.99.

An affordable, entry level phone with high reviews that is 100% compatible with our phone network.

I've been using my hardware phone as my regular phone now for 45 days, and it has never let me down.  I've received calls and made calls in and out of my area without a problem.
The calls are nice and clear, better than you hear on crackly PSTN phone lines, as good as you hear on digital work phone networks.

To get started, you simply buy one, plug a network cable from the phone into one of your LAN jacks at home (a standard internet jack).
The phone will obtain its own IP address via DHCP.  Then once the IP is displayed you navigate to its web page, and fill in about 5 or so fields (see our wiki page).
Once provisioned it will work immediately and your BBP phone number associated with your softphone will allow inbound calls (and it rings like a normal phone).
Of course you can place any outbound call to any enabled Country (see our Rates list in Unchained) and you will automatically be billed via your softphone (see the billing tab in the softphone).

To provision your phone, you can click Phone | Hardware Phone Settings from Unchained.  This page will show your personalized settings that you can use to provision your own phone.

In the near future, we will add a GUI that allows our users (IE Business use Case) the ability to map a BBP address to an extension.  This will let you control multiple phone numbers and call routing scenarios as well.  Imagine if you own a company and you have 5 customer service reps.  This would allow you to map an incoming call to an available rep.

We also have support for the YeaLink T46G Color IP phone.  Information for that is available upon request.  Its a pricier phone.

To activate a hardware phone simply follow this wiki page:
https://wiki.biblepay.org/Activate_Hardware_Phone

To buy a phone navigate to:
https://www.amazon.com/Grandstream-Business-Single-account-GXP1610/dp/B01318HLCC/



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Let me know if anyone is interested in having voicemail on their BBP phone.


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What about sms service also on the softphone?


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Hi Alex,

Yes sir, still 4,500,001 and the easiest way it to use the EasySanc instructions up in the red sea release.

Mmmmhhhh
I need at least 3.700.000
 ;D


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What about sms service also on the softphone?
Sounds like a cool thing to look into, Ill check.
But Ill probably work on routing first.  (Mapping to multiple #s).


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Status:

We are now solving 7 minute blocks on sancs!  Pretty exciting.  It was a little hairy getting past block 428001.
SouthXChange put our wallet in maintenance and are still in process of upgrading.
Bololex and txbit.io and Chainz Block Explorer have upgraded.

My BBP hardware phone is awesome, I actually really like it.  The quality is great.  I'm going to give my son a hardware phone this week (so I have two in my house).  Had to call someone in Chicago the other day for 373 seconds and got billed a pretty cheap rate :
373   $0.146   ₿ 2753.20   f139b1df68a44681f03bf299c57033dbc176bea955ffdd7dc884f67eaffe0661   
When you make a call you get billed on chain.

Our hardware phone should be out within 30 days!  If anyone is interested in getting one, push me to get the info out sooner.  The hardware phone is about $40 and comes with a US phone number and all calls automatically get billed to the chain and has the same global rates as our softphone.

All this really involves is plugging in the phone into a cat5 jack in your house and navigating to the Config page and punching in a few lines of settings in the phone and it works immediately.  It takes your phones BBP address' private key.  Its an extremely cool setup.

Regarding our long term roadmap, there is a new service coming soon called Marqeta.  Remember we have an entry to eventually release BBP debit cards on our roadmap?  Marqeta legally integrates with cryptocurrencies in the US.  I'm hoping to get that slated as a project within a year as well (after our finances improve).  They require a certain amount of collateral to set up (dont have the details yet but I inquired).

Hi Rob,

Southxchange wallet seems to still be offline have they given you any updates on this?

Thanks.


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Hi Rob,

Southxchange wallet seems to still be offline have they given you any updates on this?

Thanks.
Hey Bro,

Yeah, there was some issue with building the latest release for their architecture and I just found out about the block yesterday; I posted a potential solution in their discord.  Today two of the SX engineers ack'ed.




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Hey Bro,

Yeah, there was some issue with building the latest release for their architecture and I just found out about the block yesterday; I posted a potential solution in their discord.  Today two of the SX engineers ack'ed.

Thanks Rob that's great, I was just wondering how long it was gonna be, as long as they are working on it then its all good.

Take care my friend.


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Dear Rob,
I have finally managed to set up a Cantabo VPS with the specs. 8 vCPU, 30 Gb RAM, 800 Gb SSD. What is the recommended method to set up each of the sanctuaries such that I can also set up cockroachdb on the same server to optimize usage of the machine? If there is a Wiki somewhere for this process, could you please point me to it, so that I can set it up properly from the first go without having to reprovision it if I screw up.
Thank you.
Blessings
oncoapop


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Dear Rob,
I have finally managed to set up a Cantabo VPS with the specs. 8 vCPU, 30 Gb RAM, 800 Gb SSD. What is the recommended method to set up each of the sanctuaries such that I can also set up cockroachdb on the same server to optimize usage of the machine? If there is a Wiki somewhere for this process, could you please point me to it, so that I can set it up properly from the first go without having to reprovision it if I screw up.
Thank you.
Blessings
oncoapop

Hi Oncoapop,

Thats awesome.  Well there is no Temple guide yet, but, I can make one because we will absolutely have problems when we start talking about running 10 instances of biblepayd on different ports and also sharing the 10* instances of data directories (which requires a setting),  and also sharing the 10* config files (which requires a setting).  So I will be able to make one.

But in the mean time to get you started, pre-notes:
1) You won't need 10 sub vms inside the big vm, you will just need to run 10 instances of BBP to be a temple
2) You can ignore the section about Swap as thats only for nodes with < 1gb ram
3) You can ignore the developer notes and troubleshooting notes as those are primarily for building windows and mac

I recommend first just building one instance of biblepay first, and see if you get to the end of the build so that it makes a biblepayd file.
Once it gets that far it should be relatively easy for me to make a Temple guide and get you to the point where 10 are running properly.
Then I need to make yet another enhanced guide to handle the new unreleased cockroachdb cluster installer (which we can tackle after these first two big steps).

Plz follow this guide: Building BBP on linux:

https://github.com/biblepay/biblepay/blob/master/BuildBiblePay.txt


In my case I usually install BBP prod in "/biblepay" and BBP testnet in "/biblepaytest" from the root of the drive and install everything as root (so that all paths can be written to).

(You dont need to install bbp test, just pointing it out that you can also use that big box for testing as well.



PART II:


Here is the guide to set up 10 sancs to be a Potential Temple:

https://wiki.biblepay.org/Building_A_Temple

Let me know when you get all 10 running and Ill make a guide for releasing a cockroach cluster.

Also, if you are looking for the EasySanc doc (this is what gives you the sanctuary BLS_PRIV_KEY) there is a link for it in the Red Sea release post above (the one with the red sea picture/mandatory upgrade).


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Thank you, Rob, the guide was useful.

I used the precomplied binaries which were downloaded instead of compiling it on the server as compilation did not work on the first try.

Let's say one sanc chain is fully synced, which directories can I copy to the rest of the other /data/biblepay(n) directories so that their chain will be also synced with each of the other sancs, without having to sync from scratch for each of them, or is it necessary for temple sancs to sync from scratch (ie do template sancs communicate with one another to ensure they are internally synced with each other?) What happens when on sanc is out-of-sync, does it automatically get a consensus from internal temple sancs first or just from the blockchain on the internet?

Also, I instead of putting the conf files in a directory called /config, each of them are in the respective directories to aid trouble-shooting eg /data/biblepay1/biblepay1.conf

Would you like to commission my son who is on summer break to design some NFTs? We need to have a bit of back and forth as to what the designs are as they have to look professional and desirable!

Thank you.

Blessings
oncoapop



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Thank you, Rob, the guide was useful.

I used the precomplied binaries which were downloaded instead of compiling it on the server as compilation did not work on the first try.

Let's say one sanc chain is fully synced, which directories can I copy to the rest of the other /data/biblepay(n) directories so that their chain will be also synced with each of the other sancs, without having to sync from scratch for each of them, or is it necessary for temple sancs to sync from scratch (ie do template sancs communicate with one another to ensure they are internally synced with each other?) What happens when on sanc is out-of-sync, does it automatically get a consensus from internal temple sancs first or just from the blockchain on the internet?

edit: all my 10 sancs are synced

Also, I instead of putting the conf files in a directory called /config, each of them are in the respective directories to aid trouble-shooting eg /data/biblepay1/biblepay1.conf

Would you like to commission my son who is on summer break to design some NFTs? We need to have a bit of back and forth as to what the designs are as they have to look professional and desirable!

Thank you.

Blessings
oncoapop


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Thank you, Rob, the guide was useful.

I used the precomplied binaries which were downloaded instead of compiling it on the server as compilation did not work on the first try.

Let's say one sanc chain is fully synced, which directories can I copy to the rest of the other /data/biblepay(n) directories so that their chain will be also synced with each of the other sancs, without having to sync from scratch for each of them, or is it necessary for temple sancs to sync from scratch (ie do template sancs communicate with one another to ensure they are internally synced with each other?) What happens when on sanc is out-of-sync, does it automatically get a consensus from internal temple sancs first or just from the blockchain on the internet?

Also, I instead of putting the conf files in a directory called /config, each of them are in the respective directories to aid trouble-shooting eg /data/biblepay1/biblepay1.conf

Would you like to commission my son who is on summer break to design some NFTs? We need to have a bit of back and forth as to what the designs are as they have to look professional and desirable!

Thank you.

Blessings
oncoapop
Ok, it might be OK that you've moved the configs to other places in this case (hopefully).

Do you know what error you received in the compile and what led up to it?  Im not against using the precompiled binaries, but it doesnt make me feel too good if we go end to end building the temple and we have a basic compile problem (will probably become an issue when we get to the advanced troubleshooting with cockroachdb, possibly).

I dont want to set expectations too high on the NFT side; Im not going to have the bandwidth to talk about NFTs for quite a while; I would prefer if you work directly with the community on that so that Im not a blocker.

Any progress on testing the phone system?