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  • Rob Andrews
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I'm happy to read about the latest implementation which ads the 'biblepay team' requirement. I already read Wests post, but I didn't find the space in myself to react till now.

I like the saying: "If you build it, they will come." And if we have a well thought out 'product' (I don't know better word at this time), I think people who's ideals align with those of Biblepay and happen to stumble upon us, will probably stick around.

Another thing I just wanted to say: I'm still positive about this project. What makes me uncomfortable from time to time though, is the - in my opinion - well meaning people leaving this project in discontent. There are a lot of variables at play here, so I want to stay as neutral as possible (people are people, and they act like people, as they have done for millennia). But I would personally would feel more comfortable in this community if there would be a bit more room for everyone's views, even if they don't align with the route this project is taking. But that's just my view ;)

I'm glad you like the team requirement.

I'm not sure if you are referring to me, for not being patient enough to deal with some naysayers about this project or if you are referring to the people who left the project because they couldnt stand my response.

I'll tell you specifically what Im not going to tolerate in either of the forums (I could care less what people post outside of the BTCTalk/Forum.biblepay.org).   Any single individual who makes inaccurate and strong statements - such as "this is this way" and "this will do this" but is actually of an individual opinion (of one who may not even own a single sanctuary), where part or all of the content is questionable or not true.  And in that case No, they do NOT have the best interests in mind for this project.  Burito has a hidden agenda, and others who have left made the mistake of not being careful enough to raise concerns the correct polite way and admit they have no clue what they are talking about.  I have patience for those people, but I dont have patience for people who are ultimately destroying us and the old ladies investments because they singlehandedly feel they are the cross section of BBP.  Anyone can enter a proposal for 2500 BBP and create a soap box for change and let the sancs vote where the money is.





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Biblepay
1.0.9.2-Mandatory Upgrade for TestNet


- Add Spork for Team Biblepay Requirement for PODC
- Enforce Team requirement in PODC Contract
- Add PODC Difficulty Measurement for getmininginfo, and add exec podcdifficulty RPC command
- Extend instantsend signing timeout to allow higher transmission amounts
- Increase PrivateSend Mixing Denominations by 1000
- Add team value and warning to exec getboincinfo
- Added exec leaderboard

** Windows is Compiling **

« Last Edit: February 17, 2018, 11:14:44 am by Rob A. »


  • T-Mike
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Biblepay
1.0.9.2-Mandatory Upgrade for TestNet


- Add Spork for Team Biblepay Requirement for PODC
- Enforce Team requirement in PODC Contract
- Add PODC Difficulty Measurement for getmininginfo, and add exec podcdifficulty RPC command
- Extend instantsend signing timeout to allow higher transmission amounts
- Increase PrivateSend Mixing Denominations by 1000
- Add team value and warning to exec getboincinfo

** Windows is Compiling **

Rob, updating one node now.


  • orbis
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Did you have to do anything to get your phone to run 24/7? I have mine plugged in but it will only work for a few hours then it will suspend it self. I have to manually start it again afterwards.
Hi, like I said, I had many problems with it. Even when the phone was on charger it still had problem and wanted to plug in the power source. At the end my settings are approx like this: battery as power source, 0% min. battery, 2 CPU cores (2 of 4), 100% CPU limit, stop with CPU usage ove 80%. Now it is working almost perfectly with some small issues yesterday.


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I'm glad you like the team requirement.

I'm not sure if you are referring to me, for not being patient enough to deal with some naysayers about this project or if you are referring to the people who left the project because they couldnt stand my response.

I'll tell you specifically what Im not going to tolerate in either of the forums (I could care less what people post outside of the BTCTalk/Forum.biblepay.org).   Any single individual who makes inaccurate and strong statements - such as "this is this way" and "this will do this" but is actually of an individual opinion (of one who may not even own a single sanctuary), where part or all of the content is questionable or not true.  And in that case No, they do NOT have the best interests in mind for this project.  Burito has a hidden agenda, and others who have left made the mistake of not being careful enough to raise concerns the correct polite way and admit they have no clue what they are talking about.  I have patience for those people, but I dont have patience for people who are ultimately destroying us and the old ladies investments because they singlehandedly feel they are the cross section of BBP.  Anyone can enter a proposal for 2500 BBP and create a soap box for change and let the sancs vote where the money is.

Thank you for you reply Rob! I don't want to pollute this thread, so I'll try and keep it short. I often try to understand why people react in certain ways. I try to understand why people like Slovakia and nerfherder react in a certain way, so I try and talk to them (if they want). And yes, sometimes I'm also trying to figure out why you react in a certain way. In the case of Burito, I took his post and held your 'FUD rules' alongside it, and I couldn't figure out what was wrong with his post. But now you posted this reply for clarification, I understand: he made a strong statement which was in fact just an opinion (or something he couldn't say for a fact). Now I understand this, I also understand why you deleted his post.

That being said: I'm gonna update my testnet nodes now  :)


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Hmmm I thought we wanted to avoid having a team requirement?
so that anyone can mine Rosetta without having to leave their research team?

Im pretty much okay with Gridcoin users getting BiblePay and Gridcoin,
but given the incentives in place for that, It would be in my best interest as a researcher to end up joining Team Gridcoin so I could get the rewards for both Gridcoin and BiblePay

What other possible solutions are there?


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Hi Rob, please, I can't compile biblepay for testnet on linux. I have this error:

rpcblockchain.cpp: In function ‘bool FilterFile(int, std::__cxx11::string&)’:
rpcblockchain.cpp:4473:52: error: cannot convert ‘std::basic_istream<char>’ to ‘bool’ in initialization
        bool bAddlData = std::getline(streamIn, line);
                                                    ^


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ischindl Imro pridaj si ma na rosette: a poslal som ti na email zhrnutie nasej MNky: kamarat orbis(svk) spravil pre nas pekny sheet

Imro: pouzivas ubuntu/debian?
« Last Edit: February 17, 2018, 02:53:34 pm by klondike »


  • Rob Andrews
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Hmmm I thought we wanted to avoid having a team requirement?
so that anyone can mine Rosetta without having to leave their research team?

Im pretty much okay with Gridcoin users getting BiblePay and Gridcoin,
but given the incentives in place for that, It would be in my best interest as a researcher to end up joining Team Gridcoin so I could get the rewards for both Gridcoin and BiblePay

What other possible solutions are there?

I think the only way to handle this is to put a poll in for it...  Im relatively neutral, and now leaning towards requiring the team so that we dont give away all our rewards to every stranger so quickly.  But I can see part of the other side, where we want to appeal to the masses. 

Could you create a forum topic and put a proposal vote in for it?  Maybe for 2500 BBP so that you get reimbursed for the proposal?

Then I guess whatever way it ends it ends.

The code in testnet is set up so the team can be disabled if we set the team spork to 0.



  • T-Mike
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Hi, like I said, I had many problems with it. Even when the phone was on charger it still had problem and wanted to plug in the power source. At the end my settings are approx like this: battery as power source, 0% min. battery, 2 CPU cores (2 of 4), 100% CPU limit, stop with CPU usage ove 80%. Now it is working almost perfectly with some small issues yesterday.

I see, I will play around with it some more. Thanks.


  • Rob Andrews
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Hi Rob, please, I can't compile biblepay for testnet on linux. I have this error:

rpcblockchain.cpp: In function ‘bool FilterFile(int, std::__cxx11::string&)’:
rpcblockchain.cpp:4473:52: error: cannot convert ‘std::basic_istream<char>’ to ‘bool’ in initialization
        bool bAddlData = std::getline(streamIn, line);
                                                    ^

Could you please grab 1092b and try now?

I believe this syntax is required for cross platform compatibility.



  • T-Mike
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I updated my node but it doesn't appear to be syncing. I ran

rm blocks -R
rm chainstate -R
rm banlist.dat fee_estimates.dat governance.dat mncache.dat mnpayments.dat netfulfilled.dat peers.dat db.log debug.log

before starting the daemon.

"version": 1000902,
  "protocolversion": 70715,
  "walletversion": 61000,
  "wallet_fullversion": "1.0.9.2",
  "balance": 0.00000000,
  "privatesend_balance": 0.00000000,
  "retirement_balance": 0,
  "blocks": 692,
  "timeoffset": 0,
  "connections": 1,
  "proxy": "",
  "difficulty": 0.002553704361813557,
  "testnet": true,
  "keypoololdest": 1518115544,
  "keypoolsize": 1001,
  "paytxfee": 0.00000000,
  "relayfee": 0.00010000,
  "errors": ""

  "AssetID": 1,
  "AssetName": "MASTERNODE_SYNC_SPORKS",
  "Attempt": 0,
  "IsBlockchainSynced": false,
  "IsMasternodeListSynced": false,
  "IsWinnersListSynced": false,
  "IsSynced": false,
  "IsFailed": false,
  "MasternodesEnabled": true

Debug.log:
2018-02-17 21:41:59 26 addresses found from DNS seeds
2018-02-17 21:41:59 dnsseed thread exit
2018-02-17 21:41:59 Misbehaving: 195.201.30.231:60418 (0 -> 10)
2018-02-17 21:44:57 Misbehaving: 94.130.53.103:38154 (0 -> 10)
2018-02-17 21:47:46 Misbehaving: 38.21.22.209:42302 (0 -> 10)
« Last Edit: February 17, 2018, 03:50:22 pm by T-Mike »


  • ischindl
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Could you please grab 1092b and try now?

I believe this syntax is required for cross platform compatibility.

Thanks Rob, now is ok.


  • Rob Andrews
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I updated my node but it doesn't appear to be syncing. I ran

rm blocks -R
rm chainstate -R
rm banlist.dat fee_estimates.dat governance.dat mncache.dat mnpayments.dat netfulfilled.dat peers.dat db.log debug.log

before starting the daemon.

"version": 1000902,
  "protocolversion": 70715,
  "walletversion": 61000,
  "wallet_fullversion": "1.0.9.2",
  "balance": 0.00000000,
  "privatesend_balance": 0.00000000,
  "retirement_balance": 0,
  "blocks": 692,
  "timeoffset": 0,
  "connections": 1,
  "proxy": "",
  "difficulty": 0.002553704361813557,
  "testnet": true,
  "keypoololdest": 1518115544,
  "keypoolsize": 1001,
  "paytxfee": 0.00000000,
  "relayfee": 0.00010000,
  "errors": ""

  "AssetID": 1,
  "AssetName": "MASTERNODE_SYNC_SPORKS",
  "Attempt": 0,
  "IsBlockchainSynced": false,
  "IsMasternodeListSynced": false,
  "IsWinnersListSynced": false,
  "IsSynced": false,
  "IsFailed": false,
  "MasternodesEnabled": true

Debug.log:
2018-02-17 21:41:59 26 addresses found from DNS seeds
2018-02-17 21:41:59 dnsseed thread exit
2018-02-17 21:41:59 Misbehaving: 195.201.30.231:60418 (0 -> 10)
2018-02-17 21:44:57 Misbehaving: 94.130.53.103:38154 (0 -> 10)
2018-02-17 21:47:46 Misbehaving: 38.21.22.209:42302 (0 -> 10)


Yeah, this version has really shaken things up...

Can you all please upgrade to 1092c now.... and try syncing again please.



Windows is rebuilding now...







  • Rob Andrews
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Ok it looks like the latest version syncs now - we are at 12098.  I need to step out for a few hours, will send Windows out tonight after its tested.