Testnet - Test Proof of Giving

my maxtithamount is still only 297 bbp and still stoped my rewarding? where is problem? thanks

Every 205 blocks, your old tithe is "expired" in the pool (that is one day).

However in testnet we have two minute blocks (roughly) so each day in testnet is like 4 days in prod, meaning you need to keep tithing to stay in the pool (at least once every 205 blocks).

Keep track of your tithe txids if you want to track them and Ill point out the issue exactly.

So far from my end everything looks OK - the pool audit passed btw without any flaws found or math errors.

im still dont understand whats point for this

for newbie,when we start,what i have to do?

steps.

1.step  install bbp wallet
2.step  buy bbp from exchange or ie i have 330 000bbp in wallet
3.step  whats next?

im still dont understand whats point for this

for newbie,when we start,what i have to do?

steps.

1.step  install bbp wallet
2.step  buy bbp from exchange or ie i have 330 000bbp in wallet
3.step  whats next?

The difference is someone who buys 25000 bbp off the exchange can get started with POG almost instantly and receive mining rewards - wihtout buying expensive equipment or renting servers - their tithe total in 24 hours is the tithe_weight for the pool.  Its pretty simple to understand I think, as compared to understanding what you need to do to start PODC mining.

So the bbp miner single thread tries to send a tithe once every hour (this is a spork setting).  You can scan your log for (grep for) SendTithe.  In my case i have one exactly once per hour in the log with an error saying wallet unlock required (you need to leave your wallet unlocked in testnet if its encrypted).  I think in prod we may be able to either use the popup podc password to auto tithe.

Now do you get it?  In 24 hours all applicable tithes would be sent automatically, meaning the user is POG mining without learning anything.

omg.....please answer me
what is next step when i have 330 000 tBBP in wallet ....

stop write balast about nothing ....  please stop....

I think we need to work out some UI controls for tithing..

I don't believe it should be auto-on.   Though this makes for easy participation I feel the user should intentionally start this process (or risk people thinking we're a scam / stealing coins).

Klondike: i'll talk with you on IM,  I think you are expecting more than is required.

I think we need to work out some UI controls for tithing..

I don't believe it should be auto-on.   Though this makes for easy participation I feel the user should intentionally start this process (or risk people thinking we're a scam / stealing coins).

Klondike: i'll talk with you on IM,  I think you are expecting more than is required.

I dont really mind one way or another, but I actually thought "auto" would be the default, otherwise people will say we are intentionally trying to give the veterans more rewards.  But I see your point, I dont mind making the default =off, and we will require them to add 'tithing=auto' to the config for auto.

I did plan on thinking about a couple more controls also, like the tithe frequency.  They definiately should be able to override the default spork (which is 1 hr in testnet) by doing something like 'tithefrequency=86400' which would be equal to one day.

Let me know if you think of other controls, but we dont want to make it too complicated either. 


EDIT:

So for prod, I propose:

Default - if nothing set:
tithing=false
tithefrequency=spork_value_set_by_biblepay_devs

If a user sets them:

tithing=true
tithefrequency=Seconds_between_send


TitheCap:  Equal to 70% of our monthly POBH heat emissions (This gives miners a minimum of 30% profit on any day, and an unlimited max profit on a slow day)

Scope:  To expand POBH only for a few months, then we re-evaluate the impact this system made on bringing new users in the house. 

I did plan on thinking about a couple more controls also, like the tithe frequency.  They definiately should be able to override the default spork (which is 1 hr in testnet) by doing something like 'tithefrequency=86400' which would be equal to one day.

Let me know if you think of other controls, but we dont want to make it too complicated either. 


EDIT:

So for prod, I propose:

Default - if nothing set:
tithing=false
tithefrequency=spork_value_set_by_biblepay_devs

If a user sets them:

tithing=true
tithefrequency=Seconds_between_send


TitheCap:  Equal to 70% of our monthly POBH heat emissions (This gives miners a minimum of 30% profit on any day, and an unlimited max profit on a slow day)

Scope:  To expand POBH only for a few months, then we re-evaluate the impact this system made on bringing new users in the house.

Fair enough,  I think we need a button in the UI that will adjust the config and/or make it a registry option for those using the qt wallet.

I'm reluctant to add too much to the current QT gui with the rebase in the background ...  But for "ease of use" controlling the mining activities from the UI is important.

I'll poke around with it a bit more to see what else I can come up with

Fair enough,  I think we need a button in the UI that will adjust the config and/or make it a registry option for those using the qt wallet.

I'm reluctant to add too much to the current QT gui with the rebase in the background ...  But for "ease of use" controlling the mining activities from the UI is important.

I'll poke around with it a bit more to see what else I can come up with

The GUI rebase is going to be hard legwork anyway so I don't really mind if we add more stuff or not. It's not going to make a huge difference.

The GUI rebase is going to be hard legwork anyway so I don't really mind if we add more stuff or not. It's not going to make a huge difference.

For now I made our existing "one click mining" menu item (which already creates the biblepay.conf if it doesnt exist) check to see If Pog Enabled then:
tithing=true

(Turning on the auto tithe option)
(And this feature already sets genproclimit=1 and gen=1)

I believe they need to reboot if they do this.

What happened to my donations
I sent 18*294 bbp and my pogpool says I have  294.64

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{
  "Command": "pogpool",
  "ySwRWw1EEEMyGSz4iiWVAwryXbxBTumiPG": "Amount: 536.00, Weight: 1.0000, Payment_Tier: 13, Height: 85357, Address: ySwRWw1EEEMyGSz4iiWVAwryXbxBTumiPG, NickName: randrews",
  "yZVRb4Cbcoyqvw4VJmkSHPugyHxX7kbcF4": "Amount: 876.00, Weight: 0.7487, Payment_Tier: 0, Height: 85344, Address: yZVRb4Cbcoyqvw4VJmkSHPugyHxX7kbcF4, NickName: thesnat2",
  "yaSJ9FdsPcQvGjyrzxVFUPjg6wkJBQwaxc": "Amount: 1168.00, Weight: 1.0000, Payment_Tier: 10, Height: 85386, Address: yaSJ9FdsPcQvGjyrzxVFUPjg6wkJBQwaxc, NickName: thesnat1",
  "ydXPSPFWeoA9RUQoX6uBKmjnnJV6GxfwBa": "Amount: 880.00, Weight: 1.0000, Payment_Tier: 1, Height: 85297, Address: ydXPSPFWeoA9RUQoX6uBKmjnnJV6GxfwBa, NickName: jerky",
  "ygEXbdJhypUaVhYo5Q2jKATctQtVWL892K": "Amount: 1172.00, Weight: 1.0000, Payment_Tier: 11, Height: 85355, Address: ygEXbdJhypUaVhYo5Q2jKATctQtVWL892K, NickName: slybaby",
  "yhuFkP7UREXJrNrY62cBh5ZDMst7ATefCt": "Amount: 294.00, Weight: 0.2513, Payment_Tier: 0, Height: 85264, Address: yhuFkP7UREXJrNrY62cBh5ZDMst7ATefCt, NickName: testnet2",
  "0": "Count: 2, Total: 1170.0000",
  "1": "Count: 1, Total: 880.0000",
  "2": "Count: 0, Total: 0.0000",
  "3": "Count: 0, Total: 0.0000",
  "4": "Count: 0, Total: 0.0000",
  "5": "Count: 0, Total: 0.0000",
  "6": "Count: 0, Total: 0.0000",
  "7": "Count: 0, Total: 0.0000",
  "8": "Count: 0, Total: 0.0000",
  "9": "Count: 0, Total: 0.0000",
  "10": "Count: 1, Total: 1168.0000",
  "11": "Count: 1, Total: 1172.0000",
  "12": "Count: 0, Total: 0.0000",
  "13": "Count: 1, Total: 536.0000",
  "14": "Count: 0, Total: 0.0000",
  "15": "Count: 0, Total: 0.0000",
  "High Tithe": 1172.17,
  "Total Tithes": 4928.26999998,
  "My Tithes": 294.64,
  "My Payment Height": 85386
}
Here are some of the transaction ids

61836338359fa2641fb9a542d6e4bdcd242a1c505d2944ba19fc6d81074c3e1e-000
69410c348c2b6478d94f1bc0e8d0c61c6e00e613316f7628c53b78e2f1018df9-000
1bd2d45a10708ccf89a827fc12cd52f230b77a886888939cb1c1308b507062d4-000
121b947aea3282853ff90d7f79e583048d4988280ac26bf38918095207498b7a-000

min_coin_amount is the minimum coin value that can be used for a tithe out of your coins.  If you go to coin control and take a look at your coins, pick one of higher value than min_coin_amount.

For simplicity sake, if we don't use coin control, the wallet will choose a balance for us that is eligible? If so, which address does it pick from first? Is it random, oldest coin age first, etc ?

Also, in our File Receiving address, I see an address for TITHES. What is that for?

You have 1.1.6.3 (testnet) for MacOS here

http://www.biblepay.org/biblepaycore-testnet.dmg

For simplicity sake, if we don't use coin control, the wallet will choose a balance for us that is eligible? If so, which address does it pick from first? Is it random, oldest coin age first, etc ?

If I understood correctly from code It picks up first eligible from map and map is ordered by hash of transaction id. So it some what random

If I understood correctly from code It picks up first eligible from map and map is ordered by hash of transaction id. So it some what random

What is it that is random?  No, all tithes count if legal tithes (within diff parameter of that block).

Nothing random, except the payment tier # you end up in.

I will answer the other questions asap.

For simplicity sake, if we don't use coin control, the wallet will choose a balance for us that is eligible? If so, which address does it pick from first? Is it random, oldest coin age first, etc ?

Also, in our File Receiving address, I see an address for TITHES. What is that for?

Yes, wallet will choose balance eligible automatically.

It always broadcasts your tithe to be coming from the TITHES address so for rewards they come back to one place.

The TITHES address is the one it made for you for POG for the POG POOL, so your address is not changing in the POG POOL.