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  • Rob Andrews
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So Binance DEX (Decentralized exchange) is still charging $250,000 to be listed!  I thought DEX might improve the initial cost for projects (due to the high automation level).

May we all get together and pray that a Christian exchange owner lists us for free?

(Not to replace our exchanges, but to GROW).

And also pray for a resolution for the TOKOK debacle.  They have hijacked our customers funds, refused to communicate, and they constantly advertise FALSE and MISLEADING volume figures to the world.  Pray for a positive outcome and for their salvation of those in their back office.  If they are captivated by demons they might have dark thoughts, so lets pray a psalm over them.  Something like:  God, please Bless TOKOK to have abundant resources and wisdom, and knowledge to do the right thing.  Conviction from the Holy Spirit to be embarassed about promoting false weights and measures (Proverbs 20:10).



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1) Just to be sure. So if I already have a position like Portfolio B on the wiki page with $100 BBP + $10000 BTC that is working, just quite underfunded on the BBP side. I can then just send $5000 BBP to my "UTXO-RETIREMENT-ACCOUNT" address and it will start accumulating the rewards on $5100 of BBP and BTC instead of $100?

2) Yes, 100bbp is a small amount. I brought it up because something needed fixed, either the code or the help message. I was not referring to an estimate, but to the help message for bankroll, which is in the code at rcpevo.ccp line 2155

1)  Yes, correct.  Type in 'listutxostakes 0' (these are your stakes).  If you are underfunded on a BTC position, your "coverage" ratio will be for example ".50" if you are only 50% covered.  When you increase your BBP, we automatically reallocate the coverage percent.

2) I was actually providing a solution for you (when I said ' the fee is virtually nothing ' I didnt mean to imply that 100 is a low fee, I meant it in a way that The fee Has not changed from 0 to 100 bbp, It is still below 5 bbp),  the solution I posted earlier asks you to delete a file and reboot.  That fixes the problem (as we dont charge 100 bbp).  Its not a coding error--  Its a FEE ESTIMATE ERROR....

3) Btw, guys, you don't have to do the exec bankroll in this new version.  When you send from the portfolio builder we do everything automatically.  That part needs taken out of the docs.  I suppose its still good to know of though, because some people have quite a fragmented wallet (full of lots of small coins).






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  • twinkle
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Thanks for the info on the staking methods, as well as the bounty for UTXO stuff, I will definitely use this! I will also be praying for the TOKTOK exchange, kind of sad what I am hearing about them through this forum.
May God bless you,
twinkle


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  • talisman
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Hi Rob!

I noticed only today that we have to repeat the utxo stakes under the new wallet (been away for a while), and downloaded 1.6.2.5 to do so.

I am not sure if "https://wiki.biblepay.org/UTXO_Mining" is the latest guide, since the commands mentioned there (easybbpstake and highriskbbpstake) return "method not found".

Tried to stake (BBP only) on the Portfolio Builder, but it keeps saying "Unable to Create Transaction". I understand we do not need small bills any more for the UTXO stake fee, but created some 500-800 BBP bills just to make sure. Still no luck.

Any ideas on what I might  be doing wrong?

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Hi Rob!

I noticed only today that we have to repeat the utxo stakes under the new wallet (been away for a while), and downloaded 1.6.2.5 to do so.

I am not sure if "https://wiki.biblepay.org/UTXO_Mining" is the latest guide, since the commands mentioned there (easybbpstake and highriskbbpstake) return "method not found".

Tried to stake (BBP only) on the Portfolio Builder, but it keeps saying "Unable to Create Transaction". I understand we do not need small bills any more for the UTXO stake fee, but created some 500-800 BBP bills just to make sure. Still no luck.

Any ideas on what I might  be doing wrong?
Hi Talisman,

Did you notice the notice at the top of the wiki page you linked? It says:
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UTXO has been upgraded and rebranded as Portfolio Builder as of June 23, 2021. This page is only for historical reference.
See 1.6.2.4 Mandatory Upgrade Changes
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Hi Talisman,

Did you notice the notice at the top of the wiki page you linked? It says:

Hi there!

I went to that page, which says :

"Now you can create a Portfolio Builder position from the UI. Navigate to Misc | Portfolio Builder. Realize there are two types of positions: BBP, called native, and non-bbp (called foreign).

To create a biblepay only position, simply choose BBP from the drop down and enter the amount you would like to allocate. This is an internal transfer and the BBP will not actually be spent, it will just be moved to your "UTXO-RETIREMENT-ACCOUNT" internally, and locked."

I did exactly that, and does not work for me.

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1)  Yes, correct.  Type in 'listutxostakes 0' (these are your stakes).  If you are underfunded on a BTC position, your "coverage" ratio will be for example ".50" if you are only 50% covered.  When you increase your BBP, we automatically reallocate the coverage percent.

2) I was actually providing a solution for you (when I said ' the fee is virtually nothing ' I didnt mean to imply that 100 is a low fee, I meant it in a way that The fee Has not changed from 0 to 100 bbp, It is still below 5 bbp),  the solution I posted earlier asks you to delete a file and reboot.  That fixes the problem (as we dont charge 100 bbp).  Its not a coding error--  Its a FEE ESTIMATE ERROR....

3) Btw, guys, you don't have to do the exec bankroll in this new version.  When you send from the portfolio builder we do everything automatically.  That part needs taken out of the docs.  I suppose its still good to know of though, because some people have quite a fragmented wallet (full of lots of small coins).

1) Wonderful!

2) Sorry if I misunderstood since I did not see the number with anything that said estimate. I shutdown the wallet and deleted the file you mentioned. The transaction details says 100bbp fee, both on my wallet and the biblepay explorer. I will send you a PM with the transaction ID.

3) Good to make sure everyone knows that it is not necessary for portfolio builder. I did know, I only ran it to see if it still worked since someone else on discord said it was not working for them.


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Hi there!

I went to that page, which says :

"Now you can create a Portfolio Builder position from the UI. Navigate to Misc | Portfolio Builder. Realize there are two types of positions: BBP, called native, and non-bbp (called foreign).

To create a biblepay only position, simply choose BBP from the drop down and enter the amount you would like to allocate. This is an internal transfer and the BBP will not actually be spent, it will just be moved to your "UTXO-RETIREMENT-ACCOUNT" internally, and locked."

I did exactly that, and does not work for me.
Ok, so you tried the Portfolio Builder. I will have to leave it to other people who have used it already, since I do not have things transferred to set it up yet.


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Rob, I just attached the referral code, will let you know later how it looks on my end. I will also do another NFT soon that uses Unchained to store the file used, and, if someone buys it in the store, we will be able to see if it actually transfers the URL/ownership correctly.
May God bless you all,
twinkle

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Also just wanted to alert you that I think sorting by amount in the leaderboard of the wallet is slightly broken, as it does not sort from highest down or lowest down, but rather a weird jumble of them. However, the "points" section right next to it works just fine, and is basically representative of the same thing, so not really too big of a deal.
May God bless you,
twinkle

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  • Rob Andrews
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Also just wanted to alert you that I think sorting by amount in the leaderboard of the wallet is slightly broken, as it does not sort from highest down or lowest down, but rather a weird jumble of them. However, the "points" section right next to it works just fine, and is basically representative of the same thing, so not really too big of a deal.
May God bless you,
twinkle

Yeah, Im sort of aware of that for the most part; its a QT issue with the datagrid.  However in this Harvest version, we cast the numeric columns as floats, so that sorting by Points or Amount should sort descending properly - sorting by the nickname should sort alphanumerically.  If you find a specific column that is broken could you please open a github issue?



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  • Rob Andrews
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1) Wonderful!

2) Sorry if I misunderstood since I did not see the number with anything that said estimate. I shutdown the wallet and deleted the file you mentioned. The transaction details says 100bbp fee, both on my wallet and the biblepay explorer. I will send you a PM with the transaction ID.

3) Good to make sure everyone knows that it is not necessary for portfolio builder. I did know, I only ran it to see if it still worked since someone else on discord said it was not working for them.

I do see you PMed me a txid, although I havent clicked in it yet, I was doing some expirimenting with my larger tx's (to myself).  I do see an issue with the fee calculation in Harvest; it is higher than expected.  I believe we are going to be able to resolve this without a major network problem (luckily, the cap that is on the amount, 100bbp should give us the ability to fix the problem and make a leisure that allows blocks to be mined with 'acceptable' transactions). 

Let me do some thorough testing with the actual byte length of the transaction, and the underlying fee amounts and see what kind of detailed calculation we have here.

The intent was to charge about 1 bbp for relatively small transactions, about 50 bbp for transactions that have 100~ inputs (IE 90K long in size), and 100 bbp for super large transactions.
Note that this means that for features like exec bankroll, and normal sends, the fees would be like ~5 bbp or less.
This was not done to 'gouge' people; this was done because of the Unchained product allows people to store data in the chain.  Im trying to make it so long data strings of 100K cost 100 bbp...  And, people who consolidate a lot of coins (Ive seen a 150K tx for example) should cost 100 bbp; that was the intent.

Ill check it out...




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Hi there!

I went to that page, which says :

"Now you can create a Portfolio Builder position from the UI. Navigate to Misc | Portfolio Builder. Realize there are two types of positions: BBP, called native, and non-bbp (called foreign).

To create a biblepay only position, simply choose BBP from the drop down and enter the amount you would like to allocate. This is an internal transfer and the BBP will not actually be spent, it will just be moved to your "UTXO-RETIREMENT-ACCOUNT" internally, and locked."

I did exactly that, and does not work for me.

Hi Talisman,

I believe the issue you are running into is probably something very simple disguised by a confusing error message.

First ensure that the wallet is unlocked, and that your unspent coins are between 1000 and 10MM bbp each.  If they arent, try the 'bankroll 10 100000' for example, just to ensure thats not the problem.

Im leaning towards the wallet being locked.  It should be that simple; technically we auto-allocate the amount from PM now not requiring the bankroll.
If it does not work, please check the debug.log for a strange error message and let us know.



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1) Yes, in the portfoliobuilder "Query UTXO" feature, we show what is in your address in order to show the user what we see (for debugging purposes).
2) But you still need to use your PIN in order to get in the leaderboard.  Your UTXO is .20 even (without the 5 pin suffix).   So the sancs refuse to include it.

Whooops my bad, I hadn’t come across the issue with my ltc and dash stakes because they already had the PIN from the previous easystake stage, and forgot that the BTC stake was new and without the PIN.

Thanks for pointing out.





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Rob,
I definitely am having an issue seeing the referral code working for me. On one hand, as of today, I have yet to get my UTXO payment, but, on the other, the DWU doesn't see to have been going up for my stakes, and, in my leaderboard position, it says I have not claimed any referral BBP, and that my stake is the same weight as before (84500 or something in quantity). I have tried to attach it twice yesterday and once today. I will also let you know if anything changes, if I get a larger UTXO payment, or if I see my leaderboard position change throughout today.
 
I also am about to post a Github issue on the sorting problems in the leaderboard by way of quantity, as, once again, the "Points" tab works fine to sort them by, but quantity assembles them roughly by the first number in the amount, not the actual total (ie: 9mil 8000 7.5mil, 52000, 30mil). Not an issue really, but just to keep track of it and let it be put out there as a potential issue that can be fixed.
May God bless you,
twinkle

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