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  • togoshigekata
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Use Discourse as Main Forum
« on: December 05, 2018, 05:13:54 pm »
Currently for our forum software we are using Simple Machines (SMF 2.0)
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php

I am proposing that we use Discourse
https://www.discourse.org/about

Understanding Discourse Trust Levels
https://blog.discourse.org/2018/06/understanding-discourse-trust-levels/

I created a Discourse for testing:
https://discourse.biblepaycoin.org/

Easy Docker Setup
https://github.com/discourse/discourse/blob/master/docs/INSTALL-cloud.md

Pros:
- incentives/gamification for people to read and to post
- can sign up and log in with your Google, Facebook, Twitter or Github account
- ability for active users to post anonymously

SMF2 to Discourse - The Ultimate Guide
https://meta.discourse.org/t/smf2-to-discourse-the-ultimate-guide/90314


  • Rob Andrews
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Re: Use Discourse as Main Forum
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2018, 10:29:04 am »
So I'm looking at this proposal, and I know the younger generation likes eye candy and wants change, and note that I'm not against change, I'm for what is technically better and also better for our PR, but whoa nelly, lets consider the implications of this step by step.

Could I potentially receive a little help in researching a couple items?

#1.  Could we investigate, out of the top 20 coins out there, which of them use discourse?  And while we are at it, could we have an opinion on the "supermajority"  - IE what is the common forum software the top 20 likes the most?   (The reason I mention this is I caution us to jump into discourse if there is a reason that the top 20 dislikes it, then we would need to find that reason first).

#2.  Since discourse is written in javascript I was a little afraid that our content would not be searchable (SEO, Google indexing, PR).  However I feel that discourse has solved this by copying the metadata out - so you can ignore answering this  - I will leave it here for intelligence processes.

#3.  This proposal itself forces an IT change, but - offers very little in exchange - please lets not start a new fight about this - let me try to explain that when it comes to business, I say these things in a succinct way to allow you to realize we are TACKLING a problem (I dont say this in a mean spirit way).  In this case this is an entire IT integration (from forum.biblepay to discourse, and a DNS change and configuration change - 3 tickets).  So lets get our stakeholder on board - TheSnat is our administrator currently.  For #3, let me ask TheSnat, could you please do some due diligence and tell us here If you like the change to Discourse (A), and (B) Would you be willing to do the conversion technologically from an IT standpoint.  If you want tell me from 1-10 how much you desire to do it now, or if you want to maybe put it off a year just let us know.  I think TheSnats weight on his reply should dictate how us Sanctuaries vote for this.   (Its not fair to put IT through 80 hours of work in reaction to one community member proposal, :) 


Thanks guys.

Rob



  • thesnat21
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Re: Use Discourse as Main Forum
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2018, 11:02:04 am »
So I'm looking at this proposal, and I know the younger generation likes eye candy and wants change, and note that I'm not against change, I'm for what is technically better and also better for our PR, but whoa nelly, lets consider the implications of this step by step.

Could I potentially receive a little help in researching a couple items?

#1.  Could we investigate, out of the top 20 coins out there, which of them use discourse?  And while we are at it, could we have an opinion on the "supermajority"  - IE what is the common forum software the top 20 likes the most?   (The reason I mention this is I caution us to jump into discourse if there is a reason that the top 20 dislikes it, then we would need to find that reason first).


I would appreciate someone to do the digging on this,   from what I've seen they have some high-profile companies using it
https://www.discourse.org/customers
Patreon, imgur, codinghorror, Twitter:
https://twittercommunity.com/

I think this is more telling than the crypto niche, but still worth investigating.

#2.  Since discourse is written in javascript I was a little afraid that our content would not be searchable (SEO, Google indexing, PR).  However I feel that discourse has solved this by copying the metadata out - so you can ignore answering this  - I will leave it here for intelligence processes.

It's strange how much javascript is being used today for things...    But google and other search engines are using JS rendering for their search results,  so we no longer have to fear dynamic content.


#3.  This proposal itself forces an IT change, but - offers very little in exchange - please lets not start a new fight about this - let me try to explain that when it comes to business, I say these things in a succinct way to allow you to realize we are TACKLING a problem (I dont say this in a mean spirit way).  In this case this is an entire IT integration (from forum.biblepay to discourse, and a DNS change and configuration change - 3 tickets).  So lets get our stakeholder on board - TheSnat is our administrator currently.  For #3, let me ask TheSnat, could you please do some due diligence and tell us here If you like the change to Discourse (A), and (B) Would you be willing to do the conversion technologically from an IT standpoint.  If you want tell me from 1-10 how much you desire to do it now, or if you want to maybe put it off a year just let us know.  I think TheSnats weight on his reply should dictate how us Sanctuaries vote for this.   (Its not fair to put IT through 80 hours of work in reaction to one community member proposal, :) 

Thanks guys.

Rob

I'm open to investigating,   I think the benefits from a signup/participation perspective may be worthwhile.   Make it easier for people to log in with social media accounts, and something that is actively developed.

I think it could make adoption/participation here easier...  Ultimately that is what I'd like to see.   I will do some testing to see how easy is is to configure, and if there are other limitations that would prevent its use here.