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  • Rob Andrews
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Thanks. And small detail to the future. I think, that will be fair that Biblepay team country on Rosetta should be "International", not "Canada". And why is it Canada? :)

Its a mistake, it should be Intl, let me see if I can fix it now.



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I didn't start the other nodes today because it looks like there will be an update soon.

Good point.  Yeah, its very, very close.  Im testing it on my LAN now.  Im not sure if it will be ready tonight though...



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Good point.  Yeah, its very, very close.  Im testing it on my LAN now.  Im not sure if it will be ready tonight though...

No problem.

By the way, I don't think it's very loving to say "get lost". I understand your frustration though.


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No problem.

By the way, I don't think it's very loving to say "get lost". I understand your frustration though.

He said We were all here for Greed, and alluded that this project is about money and were not really Christians.  Your right, I should have replied with more Love.

If you look at the history, I have tried that, and God actually says to forgive your brother not 7 times but 77 times.
I do forgive him....



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Its a mistake, it should be Intl, let me see if I can fix it now.

This had to be escalated to the top.  I entered a ticket for it - and they closed it.  I emailed David Anderson.


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He said We were all here for Greed, and alluded that this project is about money and were not really Christians.  Your right, I should have replied with more Love.

If you look at the history, I have tried that, and God actually says to forgive your brother not 7 times but 77 times.
I do forgive him....

I understand your frustration Rob. Slovakia is quite the character, and I think he must have used up most of the '77 times' by now  ;D




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I understand your frustration Rob. Slovakia is quite the character, and I think he must have used up most of the '77 times' by now  ;D

LOL, Hes getting there.


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1.0.9.4b - Mandatory Upgrade for Testnet

- Add PODC Integrity system to core wallet
- Require controller wallet to send task updates into the blockchain
- Require Sanctuaries to Verify Rosetta Tasks
- Base Magnitude on UTXOWeight, TaskWeight and RACWeight

* Windows is compiling now *


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So, our PODC system is becoming pretty huge, and its obviously adding inrinsic value to Biblepay for the long haul.

We have a lot to test and a lot to explain.

First,  please see the changes I made to the wiki page on distributed computing:
http://wiki.biblepay.org/Distributed_Computing

Search for the "Biblepay UTXO Reward Chart".
Once you find that, please review the utxo reward chart and the Task Integrity reward chart and the Disaster Recovery Modes chart.

Hopefully those charts will explain the primary changes.

Let me go over the primary changes:

- Researchers are required to be on Team Biblepay for the researching credit to count.
(Support personnel can point the user to exec getboincinfo, look for TEAM: 15044, and if the researcher CPID is missing from the team they will see a warning).

- It is required that the controller wallet be running mostly 24/7, in order to be paid for research.
We now have a metric per cpid called "Task Integrity" (Its called TaskWeight in getboincinfo).  This is a percentage from 0-100% and is based on the integrity level the sanctuaries have assessed your CPID with.  If for example one CPID is working on 10 tasks, if 2 of those tasks are found to be tampered with- the task will not be counted as part of the integrity level.  If no task updates are transmitted from the controller wallet, No rewards are given to the researcher.  This means for now, you must run the controller wallet 24/7.  See the Task Integrity chart for a breakdown on the snap-to-grid reward percentages.

- You must run at least one thread in the controller wallet miner.  Setgeneratetrue = 1 or greater.  Otherwise biblepay will not transmit the PODCUpdates to the blockchain.

- The PODCUpdate transaction can be seen from the txlist.

- Inside the PODCUpdate, we send a coinstake "stake amount".  This ties the tasks that CPID is working on with a UTXO output, and also the CPID signature is required.  Depending on the level of stake, your magnitude is adjusted.  You receive a "UTXOWeight" value from 0-100%.  See the UTXO Weight chart to determine your place on the chart.  (Note, if the controller cannot sign with the CPID, no credit is rewarded for the UTXOWeight or the TaskWeight).

- Exec getboincinfo will also show the UTXOWeight and TaskWeight levels.  This will be useful in diagnosing issues to find why payments are not being received.

I know some people will view this as: Why have we made it so complicated to research?  However, the upside to these changes, proving each UTXO belongs to a researchers tasks at a given point in time is of far more benefit.  It will also provide higher rewards to those who maintain the  infrastructure properly.





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jaapgvk+tmike+rob= the defamation of other people is a manifestation of selfishness  ;) we are here only for profit 99.99% all SVK miners=our electricity is expensive here
too bad,that the state didntt care about the orphans
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Awesome, so just to summarize:
We will have to have our controller wallet (the wallet with the CPID Burn link) be on 24/7 mining at 1 thread?
We will need 50,000 BBP in the controller wallet to receive max research rewards?


./biblepay-cli getblockhash 5260
1fbe3bcb4325233dd43aa6eefa46c22c966ad1e6e5420e022956cb33caf16d7f

./biblepay-cli mnsync status

  "AssetID": 1,
  "AssetName": "MASTERNODE_SYNC_SPORKS",

Im still masternode syncing, but not seeing attempts, weird, Ill report back later
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Awesome, so just to summarize:
We will have to have our controller wallet (the wallet with the CPID Burn link) be on 24/7 mining at 1 thread?
We will need 50,000 BBP in the controller wallet to receive max research rewards?


./biblepay-cli getblockhash 5260
1fbe3bcb4325233dd43aa6eefa46c22c966ad1e6e5420e022956cb33caf16d7f

./biblepay-cli mnsync status

  "AssetID": 1,
  "AssetName": "MASTERNODE_SYNC_SPORKS",

Im still masternode syncing, but not seeing attempts, weird, Ill report back later

Yes, your controller wallet with the associations would have to be the one to stay on so it can send the podc updates.  It sends one every 4-8 hours (spork TBD still), but only if task updates have changed.  Note for people with more than one CPID, it sends one PODC update PER cpid per frequency.

As far as the 50K requirement, thats generally correct, but the stakeminer tries to use .05% of the balance unless you set POLpercentage=50 in the config. 

As far as syncing, please try to rebuild the chain after deleting mn*.dat. 

One nice side benefit we will reap is the controller wallets will be on for more pobh security 24/7.



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Okay removing the chainstate and blocks folders and the .dat files and doing a reindex worked,
both testnet sanctuaries synced now, and Im running 1 miner thread on the one with the CPID burn

./biblepay-cli getblockhash 5291
e85566fcf7a1f2da10af68206543aa2270568c725903f56293ba1bf9d7190556
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Okay removing the chainstate and blocks folders and the .dat files and doing a reindex worked,
both testnet sanctuaries synced now, and Im running 1 miner thread on the one with the CPID burn

./biblepay-cli getblockhash 5291
e85566fcf7a1f2da10af68206543aa2270568c725903f56293ba1bf9d7190556

Great!  To jump start your node without waiting 4 hours type:
exec podcupdate

Wait 6 blocks (til the podcupdate tx is ticked) , then type exec getboincinfo and see if your TaskWeight=100% and your UTXOWeight=100%?

If so that means the researcher will receive the Full reward.


Btw, in heavenly mode, thats the mode we are in now, we are in DR Mode == 0 (Heavenly) currently, Magnitude = TaskWeight * UTXOWeight * RAC.



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Code: [Select]
./biblepay-cli exec getboincinfo
{
  "Command": "getboincinfo",
  "CPID": "93138f032bdd027fa3246b48bb715a77",
  "Address": "yjUmY8EmuSKf6EWJf4aajWovksV2TQbxWc",
  "CPIDS": "93138f032bdd027fa3246b48bb715a77;",
  "CPID-Age (hours)": 422035,
  "NextSuperblockHeight": 5346,
  "NextSuperblockBudget": 1380386,
  "93138f032bdd027fa3246b48bb715a77_RAC": 7229.4,
  "93138f032bdd027fa3246b48bb715a77_TEAM": 15044,
[b]  "93138f032bdd027fa3246b48bb715a77_TaskWeight": 0,
  "93138f032bdd027fa3246b48bb715a77_UTXOWeight": 0,[/b]
  "Total_RAC": 7229.4,
  "Total Payments (One Day)": 725112,
  "Total Payments (One Week)": 15047816,
  "Total Budget (One Day)": 4141158,
  "Total Budget (One Week)": 48313510,
  "Superblock Count (One Week)": 49,
  "Superblock Hit Count (One Week)": 35,
  "Superblock List": "5247,4653,4554,4257,4059,3861,3762,3267,3069,2970,2871,2772,2673,2574,2475,2376,2277,2178,2079,1980,1881,1782,1683,1584,1485,1386,1287,1188,1089,990,891,792,693,594,495",
  "Last Superblock Height": 5247,
  "Last Superblock Budget": 1380386,
  "Last Superblock Payment": 0,
  "Magnitude": 311.4618664634385
}



./biblepay-cli exec podcupdate
{
  "Command": "podcupdate",
  "PODCUpdate": true
}



./biblepay-cli exec getboincinfo
{
  "Command": "getboincinfo",
  "CPID": "93138f032bdd027fa3246b48bb715a77",
  "Address": "yjUmY8EmuSKf6EWJf4aajWovksV2TQbxWc",
  "CPIDS": "93138f032bdd027fa3246b48bb715a77;",
  "CPID-Age (hours)": 422035,
  "NextSuperblockHeight": 5346,
  "NextSuperblockBudget": 1380386,
  "93138f032bdd027fa3246b48bb715a77_RAC": 7229.4,
  "93138f032bdd027fa3246b48bb715a77_TEAM": 15044,
[b]  "93138f032bdd027fa3246b48bb715a77_TaskWeight": 100,
  "93138f032bdd027fa3246b48bb715a77_UTXOWeight": 0,[/b]
  "Total_RAC": 7229.4,
  "Total Payments (One Day)": 725112,
  "Total Payments (One Week)": 15047816,
  "Total Budget (One Day)": 4141158,
  "Total Budget (One Week)": 48313510,
  "Superblock Count (One Week)": 49,
  "Superblock Hit Count (One Week)": 35,
  "Superblock List": "5247,4653,4554,4257,4059,3861,3762,3267,3069,2970,2871,2772,2673,2574,2475,2376,2277,2178,2079,1980,1881,1782,1683,1584,1485,1386,1287,1188,1089,990,891,792,693,594,495",
  "Last Superblock Height": 5247,
  "Last Superblock Budget": 1380386,
  "Last Superblock Payment": 0,
  "Magnitude": 311.4618664634385
}

ok looks like TaskWeight went from 0 to 100 but UTXOWeight still at 0

Is there anything I have to do for the staking/UTXO part?
« Last Edit: February 22, 2018, 01:30:04 pm by togoshigekata »