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76 Upgrade for TestNet

- Improve GSC consensus rule
- Add historical BTC price to each gsc superblock for future reports
- Prevent multiple UI popups within 7 seconds

Daemon/cli for Linux amd64, available here

And MacOS QT version here

77 - Mandatory Upgrade for TestNet

I compiled a version of the daemon/cli for Linux amd64, available here

And MacOS QT version here

Archived Proposals / Re: Consolidation of Sanctuaries
« on: April 08, 2019, 11:29:21 AM »
No ... This is not "Fairer", as someone who is happy with any of the options could vote 3 times, and have their vote counted 3x.
The way to approach that would be to start with a single poll, "Should we raise the cost of a sanctuary"  get a yes/no on that before trying to figure out which level to raise it to.

Yes, that would definitely be more precise. Because I am for 1 of the 3 options and I wouldn't vote up any of the other 3, but neither would I vote them down.

Archived Proposals / Re: Consolidation of Sanctuaries
« on: April 07, 2019, 03:35:47 AM »
I am for some sort of consolidation.

I guess that people for it will vote in only 1 of the 3 proposals (the one they prefer), but owners against it will vote down all 3 proposals.

So I would propose to apply a majority of the sum of all yes votes in 3 proposals against the biggest "no" count in one of the three (will probably be the same number in the 3 proposals)

For example
3MM: 40 yes/200 no
4.5MM: 50 yes/200 no
7MM: 20 yes/200 no
40+50+20=110 yes, 200 no = no wins

3MM: 40 yes/100 no
4.5MM: 50 yes/100 no
7MM: 20 yes/100 no
40+50+20=110 yes, 100 no = yes wins and 4.5MM option wins

I think it's fairer.

80 Mandatory Upgrade

- Refine GSC Voter

Ready for MacOS

Regarding Ubuntu PPAs, I still have to figure out how to compile Chia-BLS and Relic into PPAs themselves, then add them as an internal dependency... not an easy task at the moment, will report any progress.

On startup it goes past loading prayers and says done.  After that, something fails and the program kills itself.

Try the cleanup way, as some of the current database files could be corrupted:

The launch again

Rob, I am more concerned about the immediate than the future state.  My wallet has been down for three days now and nothing seems to be bringing it back up.  I am not alone in this, there are others in the same boat.  How do we get our systems working again?

Download the latest wallet version ( and resync. That worked for me on several nodes.


I support you on this.

Are you able to publish to Apple Store at all? Would it say MIP on it instead of BiblePay?

I can't publish on app store (It would show up with my real name lol, not MIP), in fact to some point they even stopped me from publishing betas in TestFlight, so I can only publish to my own devices (internal test),

They state that only a publisher with name "Biblepay" is entitled to publish a wallet for "Biblepay", which is a bit silly because there is no company called "Bitcoin", "Bitcoin Cash" or "Ethereum" and many 3rd party companies are publishing wallets for them.

So my fear is that even if we create a "Biblepay" company, they take it to the next level saying that they don't publish wallets of smaller or not known cryptos. But in that case we have the option to publish wallets privately (this also comes with a corporate Apple license) which is what some companies like Binance are doing.

Archived Proposals / [MIP] Feb 2019 compensation
« on: March 11, 2019, 05:09:05 AM »
Hi all

I would like to kindly ask some compensation for Feb 2019 support/development tasks

MacOS and Ubuntu PPAs maintenance: 5h
Core Client - PoG engine interface development: 15h

In all, 20h or $800 = 4,047,559 BBP

I'll cap it to 1,000,000 (1M) BBP

Thank you very much

Archived Proposals / Apple Developer Individual Account renewal - 2019
« on: March 11, 2019, 04:57:55 AM »

I purchased a 1-year individual dev licence from Apple on April 2018 in order to have certificates for publishing signed DMGs for the Biblepay Core Client in MacOS, and also to be able to prepare a iOS mobile wallet to publish in App Store.

As you probably know already, Apple refused to publish such application because they don't allow it for individual accounts.

Currently our only alternative to create a iOS app is to acquire an Enterprise Dev license from Apple (priced 299), which requires to consolidate a company and have a DUNS number. At this moment this is not available so we stuck here.

I want to request 99  to renew the individual license for 2019 so we can keep our certificates to publish the Biblepay Core Client in DMG for MacOS.

At current prices ([email protected] and BBP=5 sat) that would mean 571594 BBP.

Thank you for your time.

For me the decomission of PoDC is a painful but necessary step, at least if we aim to reach a much bigger audience.

If it has to be this way, it's probably much better do it now rather than in the middle of a new cripto summer (and risk losing that momentum).

I also see as an advantage the increase of PoW role back to a 20% of the mining rewards, I think it will help strengthen the network more than with what we have now.

Archived Proposals / [MIP] Jan 2019 compensation
« on: February 27, 2019, 08:40:03 AM »
Hi all

I would like to kindly ask some compensation for Jan 2019 support/development tasks

MacOS and Ubuntu PPAs maintenance: 5h
Dash rebase (adding PoG code): 8h
Android app: 6h
 - rebuild with a previous NDK for compatibility with older armeabi devices
 - remove SMS_SEND permission for new Google Play policy compliance.
 - publish upgrade into Google Store

In all, 19h or $760 = 2783000 BBP

I'll cap it to 1000000 BBP

Thank you very much

Discussion and Suggestions / Tipping bot on Discord
« on: February 18, 2019, 05:34:01 AM »
Someone is proposing us a tipping bot on discord

"the fee of my service  is only $30 good  for 3 months. included the maintenance if the tip bot
if you would like the live testing of the tipbot i made , just tell me if u like"

Sample screenshot

What do you think?

TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving
« on: January 22, 2019, 04:10:05 AM » Upgrade for TestNet

- Highlight user in POG leaderboard UI
- Fix bug in POG block checker (IE compare rounded amounts) before
failing a block
- Add POG Leaderboard to toolbar menu

** Note:  Please upgrade as this version hangs up on old clients **

MacOS testnet version ready and Ubuntu testnet PPAs building now

TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving
« on: January 12, 2019, 02:32:49 AM »

On the DIP002, I agree on doing this on a longer term scale - for "best practices".

Completely agree on this. We will have enough  "fun" even making a workable devnet on the first approach so this would go on a later stage.

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