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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: February 2021 Testnet Thread (Tribulation)

« on: January 19, 2021, 02:28:41 PM »

SMTP? Add another amazing and underappreciated way to send bits in and out of DAC Core wallets

Lets hope we get appreciated for *something* eventually.  I can see at least being a top 500 coin, but not a top 2000 coin.

- Ability to donate to our 'dac' from anywhere
- RandomX merge mining
- Long portfolio positions and ROI for those
- SMTP/POP3 (anti censorship features)
- RSA encrypted chat

Future:

- Bible Verse memorizer UI
- Christian certification degree training (multiple choice certification tests for Christianity in-wallet) and possibly a printable PDF

Other:

- Fill the gap in the places where Big Tech failed humanity.  They are obviously censoring freedom of speech now.  Pro freedom of religion, anti-censorship (social network) features.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: February 2021 Testnet Thread (Tribulation)

« on: January 19, 2021, 02:22:27 PM »

Hi Rob!
Yes, that machine was a left over from last testnet! I had left my VPS on and recently just upgraded to the latest testnet wallet 1.5.3.5 and it automatically joined with all the credentials from last testnet session.
Blessings
oncoapop

Aha, good to know, thanks!

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: February 2021 Testnet Thread (Tribulation)

« on: January 19, 2021, 02:14:32 PM »

** Tackling the DAC Donation Test Case **

So lets go ahead and tackle the test cases for 'giving to the decentralized autonomous charity' through the UI and the RPC.

Our brand is still 'BiblePay' and we have no intention to be called DAC.  DAC is our organization structure (not yoked to 501C3, and fully decentralized away from govts and corporation structures). 

The DAC allows a charitable person, or a crypto-whale, to come in and easily contribute to help orphans in distress.  IE they dont have to go and sponsor an orphan for a long term commitment, they can be confident the money is spent properly, and they can do it with crypto in one shot.

The way we do this is the DAC engine automatically allocates the payment across our voted in charities and first to our sponsored children.  Later it expands or shrinks (children) automatically as time passes.  We do this in a decentralized way so even if our key members die, the existng sancs have the authority to expand or shrink both the orphans and the charities.  We will talk about the sporks for doing that in another test case but lets focus on the rich crypto whale who is passing by and wants to simply give $1000 to our DAC to help orphans. 

Method 1:  Give from the UI (Send Money):
Click into Send Money, check Donate to DAC.  Enter amount.  Click Send.

Method 2: From the RPC:
From the RPC, type 'exec give amount' (TODO: Rob will remove the word exec ASAP).

Copy the TXID to the clipboard.
To see how it was distributed type 'getrawtransaction txid 1'.  Note that the tx went out to multiple partners based on a smart allocation.  The allocation has to do with how much we are currently paying monthly for our orphan commitments.

To see the projected breakdown, type 'exec dacengine'.
Right now in testnet, we only have 2 charities:  Cameroon-One and KAIROS.  The cameroon one % is currently 76%, and the kairos is 23%.

Verify that your donation went to the two charity addresses and that the percentages are correct?

I will also explain how the DAC reports each orphan and the monthly amount in a separate post.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: February 2021 Testnet Thread (Tribulation)

« on: January 19, 2021, 01:53:51 PM »

1.5.3.6 - Mandatory Upgrade for TestNet

- Fix SMTP for Windows

MIP, will you please notify us when MAC is ready?

Others:  Please send a couple test e-mails to me and/or each other (Im  [email protected]  ).

I will send an email to :  MIP, Earlz, and foundation as one email (please test Multiple recipients).
NOTE:  We still do not support CC or BCC, but we do support Multiple Recipients in the "To" field.

Lets also test receiving in Windows.

I will post more test cases also.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: February 2021 Testnet Thread (Tribulation)

« on: January 19, 2021, 01:44:13 PM »

just a note to say I received all pending emails since 14th Jan.

Thats awesome.  Yeah, I havent tested this yet, Ive been waiting to release the windows version and I planned on starting the e-mail testing phase over with all of us again (so we know we are all on the same version).  Ive been away from the machine fixing a part that blew out in our shed. 

I will try to check in this windows compile within the next few hours then we can all try some brand new emails.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: February 2021 Testnet Thread (Tribulation)

« on: January 17, 2021, 07:20:10 AM »

Version 1.5.3.5 ready for MacOS

And we have good news!! I could connect my Thunderbird to Core client email account!

I don't see any mails in my inbox, so if you sent me anything in the past, it is not here.
I sent an email to Rob now and it generated a transaction and it seems it succeeded.
So this is pretty exciting!

I also received 2000 tBBP last 13th Jan into my CPK.

I will leave my client open in case you want to send me anything. I will also have the general chat window opened.

Thats awesome MIP, but I actually still have to check in the fix for SMTP that breaks windows, etc.  Thats why I stopped sending emails etc.

I will check it in in the next hour.

I have a meeting though in an hour so I cant test chat right now but Ill post asap.

Thanks!

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: February 2021 Testnet Thread (Tribulation)

« on: January 16, 2021, 05:28:54 PM »

I got the SMTP e-mail feature working in Windows.
Basically, it was a pesky problem with \r\ns (carriage returns) becoming 1 1/2 carriage returns (\r\r\ns). Meaning that the feature didnt work at all on windows.

So this will be fixed on the next release, but first, let me look through the punchlist and see if we have any other issues to check in.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: February 2021 Testnet Thread (Tribulation)

« on: January 16, 2021, 11:37:50 AM »

Sounds sweet Rob!

Earlier today i managed to make a UTXO stake that was below 10k tBBP  so i see myself in leaderboard there now.
i did the 'exec bankroll 30 1000000'  and i see it worked.  I learn something new everyday!

I see you in there, awesome!
Yeah, btw, if you double click on the user in the leaderboard, you will eventually be able to see a more detailed breakdown of your positions.  Right now it does show you summaries of each ticker and qty.  So its relatively useful if you have a breakdown of for example all 3 tickers.  The goal so far, is to show the total value in USD for each category.

I see a testnet user in there called Scropius also, but doing WCG, interesting.

So I think I might see (well, lets hope this is the only) problem with e-mail issue (with the funny character lines).  It appears to be a windows only issue.  The sancs and my foundation machine are all on ubuntu 18.  Yours was the first testing machine on windows.

I booted up a windows client + windows thunderbird, and voila, it did send a mangled email.  The other 'clue' is your reported byte size was 32K higher for that email_ that you referenced vs. the size on my linux disk.  So it points to most likely an encoding issue on windows (not a socket issue) where we are probably writing /r/n's instead of /ns or something. 

At least it sounds like a relatively easy fix!  Ill look at that soon.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: February 2021 Testnet Thread (Tribulation)

« on: January 16, 2021, 09:14:15 AM »

This is my testnet biblepay adress: ybhEthPTyeJTbraoyCb7eXbuGotZbgckiS

 I just sent you 30MM.  Could you please do an 'exec bankroll 30 1000000' for example and that will give you 30 spendable UTXOs.
You can see them by going into Coin Control (if you dont have that enabled you can enable that checkbox from Settings).  Then you can get to coin control by going to Spend Money | Coin Control.  There you will see the 30 UTXOs once they are created.  You will see once you start sending successful UTXO stakes that they get locked automatically (just like sanctuaries).

Also, we need to verify we get the coinbase reward (and not the miner) once we send a successful utxo stake (I did that a few times locally but Id like testers to see it too).  You can probably do that by shutting off your miner after you send a successful utxo that is accepted, then you know you will not be the "miner" and then when you get the reward you will know.

Ill look into that email post soon.

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Archived Proposals / Re: RandomX Giveaway for New RandomX Miners

« on: January 16, 2021, 09:07:15 AM »

Hi, I am from Czech Republic :-)
BGr45BbWiTo2ybRt2UfXqrA4C5qmaQr4NB

Hi!  What is your 'faucetcode'?

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: February 2021 Testnet Thread (Tribulation)

« on: January 15, 2021, 07:03:05 PM »

I got ur mail Rob.
Also i see in inbox several mails from thursday that appeared.

I thing that i noted is that the picture that you sent its just letters and numbers.

for copying abit of the message:

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Content-Disposition: attachment;

filename="skies.jpg"



/9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQEAeAB4AAD/2wBDAAIBAQIBAQICAgICAgICAwUDAwMDAwYEBAMFBwYHBwcG

BwcICQsJCAgKCAcHCg0KCgsMDAwMBwkODw0MDgsMDAz/2wBDAQICAgMDAwYDAwYMCAcIDAwMDAwM

DAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAz/wAARCA4JExEDASIA

AhEBAxEB/8QAHwAAAQUBAQEBAQEAAAAAAAAAAAECAwQFBgcICQoL/8QAtRAAAgEDAwIEAwUFBAQA

AAF9AQIDAAQRBRIhMUEGE1FhByJxFDKBkaEII0KxwRVS0fAkM2JyggkKFhcYGRolJicoKSo0NTY3

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bT6DTTsAzbRtp4oNPmJ5Rm2kxUgoochpWI8UYqSip1GR4oxUlFGoEeKMVJRRqBHilC5p9FLUBuyj

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Ugoo1AjxRipKKNQI8UYqSijUCPFGKkNAo1AjxTlBxTqKFdANYHNNxUlFVzAR4oxUlBocgI8UYqQU

VIEeKMVJRQBHjFGKc/IpccUAM6UYzTtuaXbigBnl7u1G3bT8H1pCPmoAbijFSUGgCPFHSpBSFc0A

Looks like that.

Also about when im trying to UTXO stake for testing it wont let me stake my tBBP even tho they have matured, says i have 3m to spend but i still get the "unable to UTXO stake"

One potential problem with UTXO staking is any time the wallet spends any money, even for an e-mail fee, your coins start re-aging.

So I think you really need 20MM or so for testnet to test this easier.  What is your receive address?  Then you can do an exec bankroll and make some.

In the mean time, I will also figure a way to make a feature to force a UTXO stake that is "valid" for the leaderboard, but not applicable for a mining reward.  This will allow us to test even more in testnet (or in prod).  Basically that kind of stake gives you perpetual rewards, but is not going to give someone a mining reward.

Ill have to look at the e-mail issue; let me try sending myself one from outlook to thunderbird.  Yesterday I did not have that problem, it could be a regional thing, but Ill check.



EDIT:
See the attached screenshot of my thunderbird - I can send skies.jpg as an attachment from Outlook to Thunderbird, or from Outlook to Outlook without seeing the characters.
One other problem I noticed is your thunderbird replies include all the headers while mine seem to be inducted correctly.

Sigh, its probably some regional issues.  Can you tell me what your keyboard layout is and your native system language, and if your emails are HTML or Plain text and if you know if you use unicode or not?  I believe Im using English EN (US) Keyboard, HTML emails, and non-unicode ASCII.  It will be interesting to see how MIPs emails look with attachments and if he can see the one I sent you guys. 

EDIT 2:  Whats your thunderbird version also (Options | General)?  Mine is 78.6.1.  That could give me something to try.
EDIT 3:  And finally here is one more valuable question, if you go to ~/.biblepay/SAN, please do an "ls -l email_f6db*".  Mine is 2,467,803 bytes.  Can you see if yours matches my size just to ensure the truncation did not occur?

EDIT 4:  One thing you can actually try too, is sending one with a picture attached to yourself.  See if it mangles it with letters?

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: February 2021 Testnet Thread (Tribulation)

« on: January 15, 2021, 03:42:52 PM »

Updated and synced. You can try send me a e-mail at:      [email protected]

Sent!

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Archived Proposals / Re: RandomX Giveaway for New RandomX Miners

« on: January 15, 2021, 09:38:24 AM »

  Country: USA (sorry, can't find edit buttons)

Tip sent.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: February 2021 Testnet Thread (Tribulation)

« on: January 15, 2021, 09:33:35 AM »

As far as testing 'gettxoutsetinfo', this is the command that supplies block explorers with our circulating money supply.

The best way to test this would be to run biblepay-qt against prod and let it sync to the top.
Then look at the new fields:

total_burned is how much was burned in all DWS stakes.  Note that UTXO mining does not burn coins, so it is expected that this number would stop growing.
The accurate way to represent our "real money supply" would be total_circulating_money_supply + future_whale_stake_liabilities.  (These are the whale stakes that have been burned and not paid).  We cant really ascertain the 'true' money supply in BiblePay-prod 1.5.2.9 right now, because it has no way of showing the future liabilities.  But in testnet we can see clearly that we have 2.476B circulating, 415MM burned, and 159MM in future liabilities, meaning the very last line "total_supply_plus_liabilities" is going to be 2.63B.  Thats theoretically what the BXs should really show, although now we have this guide it is much easier for us to govern our future emission.  Imho, its good to scale it back with APM until its completely square.

Here is the emission schedule target doc:
http://wiki.biblepay.org/Emission_Schedule_2020

So basically, we are still 200MM over schedule for this point in time (If you synthesize it, we should be at 2.434B right now.  So we need to pull the horns in for about 200 more days and theoretically be square.  It would be nice to see 2.847B at the end of this year.  Of course its a challenge to scale back while growing at the same time.  Obviously I prefer a few new users per day over conservation.

I will also be holding a vote to increase our deflation rate by 5% temporarily to fix this problem without APM being required (another words, to fix it regardless of our state of APM).
That code is already in this testnet version but we will need a sanc vote concerning all changes at once when this is close to release.

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BiblePay Current Discussion / Re: BiblePay | 10% to Orphan-Charity | RANDOMX MINING | Sanctuaries (Masternodes)

« on: January 15, 2021, 08:35:55 AM »

Hi Rob,

I checked the thread about upcoming changes, and sadly saw abandoning PODC is opened for debate once again. I wonder if I am the only one that really prefers doing cancer research for coins instead of hashing whatever algorithm. To the extent, in fact, I have not even caculated what I would have earned by doing RandomX with my machines, instead of BOINC. I thought we considered (and advertised as such) PODC to be one of BBP's highlights, has this changed now?


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Hi Talisman,

Nothing is set in stone yet, but I urge you to join us in testnet in the discussion here:
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=748.new#new

As that is the primary driver and contains the explanation for the motivation to make a change that appeals to more users.   


4800 BBP