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Production Proposals / Re: Ban Slovakia from Talking for 6 months
« on: October 13, 2018, 07:45:43 pm »
I didnt want to get in the middle of this drama, I was hoping things would work out naturally, thesnat kind of forced my hand into talking by risking exposing my previous conversations with him, but I also felt maybe its finally time for you to hear what I have seen Rob given the continued drama between parties.

To be fair, I asked if I could share something limited.   I do not  want to betray any trust.... 

Do we need a clear set of forum rules posted somewhere?

RULES:
1. Do not make assumptions or false statements
2. Talk in a nice tone and manner, be polite and appreciative
3. Be willing to do work/research/experience, or Find someone who can, People are busy

Some sort of 3 strike your out system would be interesting,

I made this thread because Slovakia upset me enough to where I lost motivation to do any work for the day, and it wasnt the first time it had happened, and I knew he was probably effecting other team members, Ive since clicked ignore on his profile, but to be good PR person I have to know everything everyone is saying so I click unignore every time he posts, sigh

I worry about the emotional wellbeing of the people doing work. I dont think most people realize how much sacrifice is going on already and how close to the edge of sanity people are already at.

Im not sure how to vote on this proposal, I wish I didnt have to make it to begin with

The rules are fair,  and back to "talk in a way the children can read the thread" .. is a good fallback.

The issue I have with this is:

We're called to show the love of Christ,  and we cannot do that if we are "banning" people, calling names, or being derogatory ..

I find it very hard, but Matthew 5:44 calls us to:
"But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,"

This includes people like Slovakia.   They represent the ones we need to "kill with kindness".

If we can accomplish this, how much better will we, and this project flourish?

I am hoping we are coming to a new understanding,   in the past I have frankly been reluctant to discuss this project with others due to what had been transpiring.   I'm hoping God is redeeming this and we are moving forward.

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Production Proposals / Re: Ban Slovakia from Talking for 6 months
« on: October 13, 2018, 08:06:03 am »
"I don't know of any routinely active person that has not felt alienated by you at one point or another.. "
-> Well how about who I work with every day: Togo, Jaap, LukeF?  Are they alienated by me or have ever been?
Or the other 99% I deal with pool questions, email and forum replies.  The 1% is as always has been the 1% who argue in the past - the people who have posted in the hate group thread and who have been argumentative, its a handful of people who repeatedly do this, its the Opposite of what you say above.


Fair point,  I have asked some of the more public ones if I could share on their behalf,   I appreciate Togo stepping up on his own as for the others we will wait and see

I do agree you have more interactions than the BCT forums, and my view has been somewhat jaded (it's on me to correct this.)

I have asked the others to call me out if i'm being out of line as well. (Thanks Togo!)  As I know how important it is to have other voices speaking to you (not just the ones in my head haha)


"Please, before you continue judging others character take a step back.   You cannot judge if I have forgiven you or not,  and if you have the same condescending tone and publicly ridicule someone repeatedly you are showing an unrepentant heart.
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-> Sorry, but I'm not judging.  I am in every case defending my position of being attacked.  And I do forgive, 100%, as I forgave you - and am willing to forget the past and start over, but I keep getting reminded when someone like you claims we are good again and then you make some public post that No I really didnt forgive you Rob, Im an Indian Giver, it was a lie. 


"A statement or a question is not by itself an attack.   If you perceive it as one and respond accordingly it's not the other person's fault."
-> Right, I think my reply history shows Im smart enough to realize that.  In every case, problems started occurring when someone attacks the coin or me personally in a degrading way.  A person who judges should be smart enough to do the due diligence and make a polite post about the problem.  I have no problem with criticism if its done in a cautious way, and Im all for improving every part of biblepay.


This is something we can work on together.    I'll work on HOW I say things,  and waiting to respond if something upsets me so i can have a cooler head (I cannot speak for others but I will encourage them to do the same..)   

But in turn, I would ask that you try to understand where we're coming from as well,  most of us were not trying to attack, and want to see this project succeed.


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Production Proposals / Re: Ban Slovakia from Talking for 6 months
« on: October 08, 2018, 10:45:39 am »
https://pastorrick.com/four-characteristics-of-biblical-forgiveness

I'll be the first to admit I fail at this, but it's a good refresher, and something i'm working towards.

https://pastorrick.com/three-reasons-god-says-to-forgive-others

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Production Proposals / Re: Ban Slovakia from Talking for 6 months
« on: October 08, 2018, 09:55:36 am »

However, what you are wrong about is my responses before you came were based on actual non warranted attacks by people with deranged characters.  I should be the one people are standing up for.  Therefore my attitude is not delusional.  You appear to be siding with the original attackers, which means you are siding with the mean-spirited.  Maybe you have a delusional view of your own character?  Is it a view of a non-loving person?  It should be?  Very similar to thesnats:  One who forgives in a fake way and goes right back to the same hateful behavior.

Anyway, its apparent that you dont have the character of one who forgives - but I will forgive if you will become nice.

I don't know of any routinely active person that has not felt alienated by you at one point or another..

Please, before you continue judging others character take a step back.   You cannot judge if I have forgiven you or not,  and if you have the same condescending tone and publicly ridicule someone repeatedly you are showing an unrepentant heart.

A statement or a question is not by itself an attack.   If you perceive it as one and respond accordingly it's not the other person's fault.


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Production Proposals / Re: Ban Slovakia from Talking for 6 months
« on: September 30, 2018, 08:43:23 am »
I agree his posts are generally negative.

I also agree with Sun,  as Christians we are called to "love our enemies, and pray for those that persecute you".

This proposal seems inappropriate, at best it will stop some of his comments, he can always create new accounts.


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Discussion and Suggestions / Re: Google Analytics
« on: September 22, 2018, 07:23:16 am »
If that many people don't stay till 10 seconds, and the page average load time is 5sec for the "best" browser..

Perhaps we should look at simplifying/streamlining the landing pages.

It's interesting,  what is the average daily before and after the airdrop, it appear's like it may be slightly above what the previous batch was.

Are we ready to post the airdrop stats, I'm curious what those are.

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I guess team Gridcoin, Byteball and Neumannium Labs would be the ones I see right off the bat.  Right now the BOINC percentage that is winning is 100%, which I think is entirely counter-productive.  Even though I'm very much against removing the team requirement, I do think that if we do, 90% of the reward to non-team members is enough to give an incentive for people to join our team but not penalize people too much for keeping with their old team.  That being said, even 100% reward is unlikely to trigger in my mind more than a 2-4M coin surge in demand, followed by a routine surge in supply as non-interested miners sell off the coin as they earn them.

Agreed, and if we are blocking other Crypto's from participating it is taking the audience away.

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Production Proposals / Re: Compensation for Jaap's work with BiblePay
« on: September 20, 2018, 06:13:57 am »
Jaap,

New proposal should be a new thread so things don't get confused :)


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So, just to make sure. Currently this proposal is now only for removal of the team-requirement. This will also involve blacklisting some teams (e.g. Gridcoin) and giving a penalty if you are not in team BiblePay (e.g. 50%).

So far, it's not clear which other teams will be excluded.  Hopefully this can be clarified before the proposal is finalized

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It doesn't need edited, and it is proper English to say it this way, and it obviously doesn't mean I plan on killing any children.

I laughed when I said something similar to my wife about an upcoming schedule (IE I am going to start fasting on Tuesday) and I say 'Its my last meal .. referring to Monday night' and she thinks its a negative comment (as in Ill be dead the next day).  I said, no its proper English to say its my last meal, as the assumption is not that Im dying.

No worries,  I agree its foolish,  sometimes we need to look beyond it for the sake of the message. :)

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However in light of that response, if our price stays low for 10 more days, and compassion is being voted down, Ill consider starting to terminate the children (knowing about the termination insurance) towards the end of this month, entering a smaller compassion proposal, and putting in payroll.  Let's see how the next 10 days goes and how our fast impacts our price and what God's outlook is on this.

I know you did NOT mean it in a negative way, but..
Jaap's post on BTC highlighted this line for me.. Perhaps it should be terminate sponsorship and not "children".   We don't need to give slovak any ammo.

Feel free to delete this comment after you update :)

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I dunno .. the more I think about it the more I think we need to take a step back.

I'm not for making changes this drastic without giving it some time to settle and looking at other options.

I've been working for months to get enough for staking my PODC,   gradually increasing my payout.

I think opening the floodgate will alienate most core users.   Lower rewards significantly, and adding more sell pressure.

I don't see how this will help us long-term.

The other option I thought of if this has to go through,   is limit the contribution from anyone non-bbp grouped.
 say 10% of their RAC is applied?  (Large miners would be fine with this)   Think of it like Byteball does for WCG.   They give some credit but it's not meant to be a replacement.



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Just to clarify, I would not propose to do something with Low security.  I feel DGW + the signed cpid + prior 2 or 3 rule is very high security.  I took a look at the code, and I think we can keep our current prod rule (requiring cpid to have not solved the N-1 through N-4).  The main change is to remove the rule where we require the cpid to be in a superblock with a payment; thats not only the biggest hassle for them but the biggest fork risk.

I updated the proposal to consider a RAC threshhold < 15000 to be our zero UTXO  requirement (IE we moved to a rac threshhold instead of magnitude based on Capulo's suggestion).

Fair enough,  I didn't mean to imply you were...  Hope that came across ok.

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Yes, I agree with you - to clarify, Im all for making the code fork-free, and as long as we can do this in a hard deterministic way (IE check for duplicate CPID in block-1 , Im for keeping that part in).  Ill double check this asap.  So to clarify, you can heat mine with a signed CPID that has RAC > 100, but does not need to be in prior superblock, but - this cpid could not have solved the prior block (pending my analysis for fork prevention).

Fair enough.   With POBH being lower (been averaging 500kh-1mh) we should retain some security.

Naaaa, its not that easy to maintain 100 boinc accounts cpids.  So yes, we thought of that already.    Those boinc guys dont like having multiple cpids; what would be the use of having stats??

Its to prevent a boinc superuser who is not on our team yet from roaming in and taking over the superblock budget.

Hmm interesting thought,  I could see some folks abusing it..  If you're looking for pure profit and have a mining shed of 100 machines one time boinc account creation is no big deal.

Currently mag <1 is somewhere between 8-10k RAC

Though if we get flooded with new researchers,  then it could increase drastically(but less payout per)



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I'm on the fence about the team removal,  I do see benefits (now folks could double-dip mining on gridcoin + bbp for example..  Definately would open more people to the coin)

As for the 4-block heat-mining cpid restrictions...  This I have some concerns over, perhaps lower it to 2 instead?

During the monthly superblock issues we were having,  heat mining was impacted drastically by allowing multiple consecutive winners.


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