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Wow thanks for the update, glad it worked out!

Don't forget us while you're away Jaap! :)

Yeah, I'm also glad it all worked out in the end. I saw that Rob already made a new proposal for a 'new new exchange fund', so I'm happy that things keep on rolling in that department.

And I'll be around! Just a bit in the background for now, and we'll see how it goes from there.

Thanks again everyone for taking this project to where it is today. It's been a journey.

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Great job Jaap, thanks for completing the coinexchange mission and for making a great web site.

Thanks Rob! I hope that you are doing well. You are in my thoughts.

I just realized something really stupid! In the spreadsheet I didn't yet factor in the leftover BBP from the airdrop and the hardcopy guide budget. (I'm not the most organized person in the world :p) That in total is about 340k BBP. See the threads here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2388064.msg46567668#msg46567668
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=120.msg4568#msg4568

Let's cross that off against each other and call it a day.

So please everyone: downvote my proposal for this month! As far as I'm concerned I'm compensated enough for the coinexchange listing.

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Production Proposals / New Exchange Fund (recoup fronted BTC December 2018)
« on: December 10, 2018, 02:35:40 pm »
Hi everyone,

A post and an update from my side. I'm doing pretty well considering the circumstances. I've been re-inventing my life a bunch and I can breathe a bit again. Again, I'm sorry that I had to leave without much notice, but a burn-out is a serous matter :(

On the New Exchange Fund: I sold what I got last superblock + some of my own BBP, and I'm glad to say that I have recouped practically all the the BTC!

You can find this months trades here:
https://imgur.com/a/bOUPlkk

I did sell some of my own BBP, so this proposal is to get some of that BBP back , but that will be the last proposal, and fortunately the budget will be opened up for other things. You can see an overview of the recouping here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1A0ZUlpMaw7pZ5YQEiLN7WoqZP1bq5VOcEZGzMS8KWlw/edit#gid=0

You can find the old proposals here:
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=308.0

I sold 365 489 of my own BBP this month, and there is still about a 0,012 BTC deficit (not including all the trade and transfer costs, but I will donate those to BiblePay), which is about 100 000 BBP at the current price. I'd like to round it all to down 400,000 and call it a day :)

I hope that you will vote 'yes' on this proposal, so that we can finalize this chapter. And as I said in my previous proposal: because of my burn-out I am no longer able to continue the New Exchange Fund for now. I hope to return to the community in the future if my health permits.

Thanks!

Jaap

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Archived Proposals / New Exchange Fund (recoup fronted BTC November 2018)
« on: November 14, 2018, 08:53:55 am »
Hi everyone,

I presume that you all know that I fronted some BTC to get us listed on coinexchange.io. Sadly, since the fronting, the BBP price went down, so it's taking way longer than expected to recoup the costs.

I sold what I got last superblock + some of my own BBP - to speed up the proces - (a total of 2M BBP) at 6 satoshi today.

Here you can find an overview of the Fund-sales:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1A0ZUlpMaw7pZ5YQEiLN7WoqZP1bq5VOcEZGzMS8KWlw/edit#gid=0

Here is the Fund address (it needs to get to 3BTC 'total received' to be even again), so we still need about 0.17 BTC.

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3AojspQgpSSDdPJJANj4UtSBFUZy8YdduT

Here is the previous discussion about the Fund:
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=97.0

I will be asking for 2M BBP this round. I just want to get this over with as soons as possible so we can look at the future again :)

Also, please take note: after I have recouped the costs, someone else needs to take over the fund (of someone can already start a new Fund today if needed). I have burned out and need to take some time to take care of myself for the time being.

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I agree with klondike: we really do need more 'external exposure' (such as bloggers and journalists writing about us). That would give us more legitimacy. So I'd like to invite anyone who has some PR-experience to contact me. With some help I've gathered information on creating pitches, and I've collected a list of contact information of journalists. Unfortunately I'm really burnt out at the moment, so I'm looking for someone (or a little group) to prepare and send pitches and provide journalists with information if needed. This is just a small part of PR of course, but I think it can prove an important one.

Anyway, what I'm sometimes concerned about is the public's perception of us when they look at our forums. Because there IS toxicity, no doubt.

I've talked to a few people that have 'quit', and most said that they really liked the project, but that they had trouble with your personality Rob. I hope this doesn't come across too harsh. I'm just stating what I've observed.

Now, of course, when something like this happens there are two people involved, with two backgrounds, and two personalities. I'm not here to judge. I just know that sometimes I read someone's reaction (yours and others), and I just feel in my guts that it's going to escalate (or already has). I'm not pointing fingers. It's just a feeling that I sometimes have.

What I also know, is that some of the people that 'quit' really were initially willing to put a lot of time in BiblePay. And I think it's really a shame that they got alienated from the project, because in my opinion they were good people at heart. I agree that there are people that are really annoying and even damaging, but I think drawing a line is a tricky thing. We're all just 'peopeling around' with all our human shortcomings, in my opinion.

I think that we should try to work on incorporating loving values in all of our communication. Again and again. If we as a group are representing a Christian community to the outside world, my personal opinion is that we should try to have room for each-others feelings as much as possible. I'm not just trying to be sappy here, I also look at this from a business perspective, because I want BiblePay to be able to help as many people as possible. But I only want to be involved in a project that tries to have room for people 'as they are'. That's just because of my personality. The toxicity has probably contributed to my current burnt-outness, since I'm pretty sensitive to it.

I'd like to end this post with saying that I'll be abroad for the next two weeks, and I'll have (and also want) very little internet.

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Archived Proposals / Re: October Payroll and IT Expenses
« on: October 20, 2018, 07:36:55 am »
Thank you for all your hard work and generosity Rob!

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Archived Proposals / Re: Compensation for Jaap's work with BiblePay
« on: October 19, 2018, 02:59:17 am »
Hi everyone,

I want to ask some BBP for the work I've done this month. I'm only asking BBP for time spent on the website and editing guides, all the other stuff is voluntary work.

I've spent 12 hours on these things. I created the new 'light version' of the website. This means removing a lot of the darker/grey images and replacing them with more colorful ones. Togo and I have also created the new landing page (still a work-in-progress). I've also adjusted guides to implement for example the new mining setup and one-click masternode set-up.

I want to ask 375000 BBP (12 hours x 20 dollars x 0,00064).

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Archived Proposals / Re: Proposal idea: airdrop
« on: October 14, 2018, 08:01:27 am »
I've halted the airdrop. There were very little new applicants lately, the budget was running low, and I'm going away for a few weeks very soon. These factors combined moved me to halt the airdrop.

You can find the spreadsheet I used during the airdrop here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xO06WmbA_YynGjoj0dz5P0aHqCBbtjwi4Q0g-veQP-o/edit?usp=sharing

We've airdropped 766k BBP directly from the budget. Technically Rob has also given away BBP from the pools faucet (see: https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=283.0 ) And Togo also fronted about 0.1 BTC - if I remember correctly - for the airdropalert.com listing.

So there is 234k BBP left over from the actual budget. I want to suggest sending it to Togo to he can recoup some of the BTC he fronted, as the plan as outlined in the proposal also included using BBP to pay for listing on airdropalert.com.

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Archived Proposals / Re: Ban Slovakia from Talking for 6 months
« on: October 13, 2018, 05:52:15 am »
I personally never felt alienated by anyone in the BiblePay community, but I have spent a lot of energy talking to people who did feel alienated. I have stopped doing that, because it just took too large a toll on me. It's in my personality to try and keep people together and to keep communications as open as possible, but I don't think it's healthy for my well-being long-term to continue to try and be the middle-man in discussions. So if a discussion doesn't involve myself personally, I have decided to stay out of it for the time being.

I have felt bad in the past when I read reactions by a number of people, because I felt that emotions became the reason for certain responses (something which I will never deny doing myself also). And while I think there should be a place for people to release their emotions, I don't think that a public forum is the right place for that if we want investors to have faith in the future of BiblePay. And yes, the impact of slovakia's FUD on price should not be underestimated. And while we can counter the FUD with rationality, that will not entirely remove the impact of FUD, and I think it's good to have a discussion about banning certain bad actors if they cross a certain threshold.

So, while I think that FUD is destructive, and I also have my personal struggles with slovakia, I would probably not vote 'yes' on banning him at this point. Leaving FUD out of it for the moment, I think that moderation is something that is sometimes necessary simply because the world is not utopian in the sense of people always having such good emphatic abilities to relate to the responses of others. But I'd rather that we try to approach 'people like slovakia' with as much love as we are able to muster at a certain time.

We don't know each others past, we don't know each others internal world, and we don't know how much is miscommunication because of upbringing/culture/language/etc.

I realize that my position on this is a bit vague, but that's because there are so many points of view on this. Still, I think that it's good to be able to have a discussion about things like this.

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I will vote 'yes' on this :) Just a question: 750 000 BBP is probably too much for just the sponsoring of the children. Instead of spending it on other stuff, maybe you could put in some 'reserve jar' for the children, just so they have a buffer if needed for school costs?

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I agree.

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Archived Proposals / Re: New Exchange Proposal - Add new Biblepay Exchange
« on: September 30, 2018, 07:13:46 am »
Hi Everyone,

As I stated in my last post, We're still a bit short in the New Exchange Fund, so I'll be requesting funds to recoup that until we are in the green again. This is the funds address:
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3AojspQgpSSDdPJJANj4UtSBFUZy8YdduT

The only important number is the 'total received' number (because of change addresses and me having paid for a listing with my own BTC by accident). We paid 3 BTC on costs for getting listed on exchanges. So we're about 0.3 short still.

Here is an overview of all the sales (which I posted before). The number is a bit off with the New Exchange Fund address because of trading fees and withdrawal fees:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1A0ZUlpMaw7pZ5YQEiLN7WoqZP1bq5VOcEZGzMS8KWlw/edit#gid=0

Anyway, I'm requesting funds to recoup the costs I personally made until we're at 3 BTC. Everything above that will be put in the 'New New Exchange Fund'. I want to request 1.5M BBP for this in this superblock. At the current exchange rate, it will probably take 3 superblocks before we're in the green again.

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Hi everyone,

Due to the value of the coin going down while organizing the airdrop, we needed to fund the promotion for the airdrop with Togo's personal funds. There simply wasn't any budget within the 1M BBP that was requested for the airdrop. I hope you can understand. The airdrop has given us a lot exposure.

Current airdrop statistics (green means everything on the form checked out and the user is paid):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xO06WmbA_YynGjoj0dz5P0aHqCBbtjwi4Q0g-veQP-o/edit?usp=sharing

Airdropalert Invoice:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/143z3kPCjJso9xcKM6cdn2Ph95HU9ykR0/view?usp=sharing



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At some point, there should be a ceiling like 1.55M. Otherwise, it'll just be whomever has the most UTXO weight. At some point, your "integrity" has very little to do with how much BBP you hold. It is a matter of how much money you have or early you joined BBP. If not enough people vote, certainly fall back to this scheme, but if enough people participate in voting let there be a cap. That encourages more participation instead of resentment.

I think this is something we should indeed talk about (the inns and outs), that's why I also highlighted 'new users'.

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On first sight, this seems like a very nice system! I like the idea of incentivizing people to vote. This is like an automatic bounty system.

And users with a high utxo weight are likely to be loyal to BiblePay (why else would they have a lot of BBP).

As you say, it would be an interesting economy. If this reaches prod, I hope that we can spread awareness for this in a way that also attracts new users.

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