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Archived Proposals / Re: Proposal idea: airdrop

« on: July 09, 2018, 11:04:59 PM »

Have you considered the abuse potential? It wouldn't be hard to create VMs (Windows or Linux) and script your way to multiple 10k BBP payouts. At 0.002 x 10k = $20 USD?  That's a lot of motivation to cheat the system. Sorry to be negative here, but I've seen a lot of airdrops not give the result people wanted. Wasted advertising $$$ mostly if you actually follow through on the payout.  Would you have to screen for fraud manually or is there an automated/clever way to clean out fraud? Is having to upload your identification too much?  Or perhaps there's an API where you can tie in with a reputable exchange where the user is registered and authenticated to an acceptable level?

I like your feedback. I thought that I made it hard for people to cheat the system.

Do you think it's easy to script something that registers you on three websites using a unique email-address, downloads, installs, and sets-up two software-programs (including waiting time for the R@H task to solve and for the blockchain to sync correctly), burns your CPID into the blockchain, and fills in the google-form with all the necessary data? I have only little programming skills, so I don't know how someone would go about this.

The verification will be manual btw (also due to my lack of programming skills).

I'm not feeling comfortable doing a KYC, with all the risks involved. It would be nice to be able to do some blockchain identity verification. I know that some projects are working on that (like Civic), and it would be nice to be able to use something like that in the future.

I could also ask participants to join a special Telegram airdrop group, those accounts are linked to unique phone-numbers.

Anyway: thanks for the feedback I hope that we can have a quality airdrop that gives us new users.

My thought about doing the airdrop this way, was that participants would already be mining in the end. Of course they could sell, but why not keep on mining?

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Archived Proposals / Re: Proposal idea: airdrop

« on: July 09, 2018, 07:25:54 AM »

Okay, I’ve been doing some more research concerning the airdrop and have had some feedback on it. Basically, I think that the best approach is to do a high quality airdrop that takes a lot of effort. This is because I want to attract actual new users and not people who are just in it for the airdrop itself.

I would suggest the following approach: only new BiblePay PODC Researchers with a burned CPID in the blockchain get BBP. We will give these people a pretty high compensation (like 10.000 BBP).

So basically, if you participate in this airdrop, in the end you are already mining and receive enough BBP to start staking with a mediocre PC.

Other forms of airdrops just don’t seem worth it to me. I think that The BBP we spent on the airdrop is an investment in our future.

So basically, new Researchers need to go through a couple of steps:
-Register with BOINC, join team BiblePay, and start researching.
-Download wallet, register on pool.biblepay.org to get BBP from the faucet, and burn their CPID in the blockchain.
-Sign up for our newsletter.
-Fill in the airdrop-form
-(Optional) share the airdrop on their social-channels.

Again, I’m just thinking out-loud concerning the airdrop 😊

I think it would be awesome to have the airdrop alongside the first round of advertising. I was thinking about doing a long-term airdrop. I can ask for BBP from the superblock and the airdrop turns to a ‘Sorry, come back next month’ when the funds run dry. But of course, that’s only if the airdrop proves to be a success.

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Archived Proposals / Re: New Exchange Proposal - Add new Biblepay Exchange

« on: July 07, 2018, 09:15:35 PM »

I've made a new proposal called 'New Exchange Fund - July 2018' 

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Archived Proposals / Re: PRE-PROPOSAL - Advertising - Google Adwords

« on: July 07, 2018, 09:24:54 AM »

I am requesting $300 from the PR budget, to run ads on Google, Twitter and Facebook for 1 month, each $3/day, afterwards I will report results.

$100 - Google Text Ads
$100 - Twitter Ads
$100 - Facebook Ads

$300 / $0.002448 per BBP = 122,549 BBP

Easy 'yes' I'm curious about the results. I liked the twitter-results. Quite a few subscribers came from that advertising trial.

I was also thinking about how to get noticed on big crypto-news websites. Do we have to write official press-releases for that, or does a journalist have to notice us?

I have no experience whatsoever with this field. But I think April does. Maybe she knows someone who can facilitate this?

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Archived Proposals / Re: New Exchange Proposal - Add new Biblepay Exchange

« on: July 01, 2018, 12:52:17 PM »

Just an accountability post from my side. These are the coins I have sold in June on southXchange:

06/30 11:36 AM   Sell   46957.04000 BBP   0.00000025   Executed   7A2NK7VN
06/30 11:35 AM   Sell   294563.0000 BBP   0.00000028   Executed   236267GI
06/30 11:35 AM   Sell   143886.0000 BBP   0.00000027   Executed   N776YWH5
06/30 11:34 AM   Sell   100000.0000 BBP   0.00000026   Executed   XGVLQ1BY
06/30 11:34 AM   Sell   100000.0000 BBP   0.00000029   Executed   42T4LEUV
06/30 11:34 AM   Sell   100000.0000 BBP   0.00000025   Executed   P1QM863V
06/19 06:21 PM   Sell   150000.0000 BBP   0.00000040   Executed   UPFX3U2J
06/19 06:21 PM   Sell   200000.0000 BBP   0.00000040   Executed   4NTRM441
06/02 08:14 AM   Sell   100000.0000 BBP   0.00000042   Executed   HXKH72DD
06/02 08:14 AM   Sell   200000.0000 BBP   0.00000040   Executed   MBW48638
06/02 08:14 AM   Sell   200000.0000 BBP   0.00000041   Executed   1LFOFW34
06/01 12:32 PM   Sell   100051.0000 BBP   0.00000043   Executed   7F58DLP4


And on QIEX:
Pair   Type   Price   Amount   Filled
BBP/BTC   Sell   0.00000030   38169   0.01145070   BTC
BBP/BTC   Sell   0.00000028   23767   0.00665476   BTC
BBP/BTC   Sell   0.00000040   43000   0.01720000   BTC
BBP/BTC   Sell   0.00000041   40967   0.01679647   BTC
BBP/BTC   Sell   0.00000040   34352   0.01374080   BTC
BBP/BTC   Sell   0.00000040   8341   0.00333640   BTC
BBP/BTC   Sell   0.00000040   7307   0.00292280   BTC
BBP/BTC   Sell   0.00000042   5529   0.00232218   BTC

Last month I just set some sell orders, but the price went down and a lot didn't trigger. From this month on I will have the policy do try not to have coins that are older than 30 days.

These sales calculate to 2M+ BBP sold for about 0.7 BTC, which is quite nice. I just added sell orders for this months received budget, but will keep a closer look on the price with the intention to sell all of the BBP before the next superblock hits.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: Testnet June 2018 Mandatory Upgrade Testing Thread

« on: June 30, 2018, 09:02:51 AM »

Yes, the reason its currently 5 bbp, is we went live with that value last year.  However I feel that will end up eventually being abused (as it was in the pool at first), and also, we have been charging 2500 historically in the pool, so I made a transition point as of August 1 to switch over to 2500 BBP for the collateral fee.  So in prod, it will temporarily be 5 also until that date.

Im going to look at any outstanding test cases; we really need to ramp up testing this weekend in order to try to get a version out soon; we cant notify the exchanges of a coming mandatory unless we are sure of a release date.

I feel that the 5 BBP will definitely make it easy to abuse the function. 2500BBP I think works well, as you can ask the 2500BBP back in your proposal. If you have a good proposal you have nothing to fear.

This Sunday will be my 'BiblePay day', so I will test a lot and try a lot. A tiny thing that I have for now is that you can still also access the proposal-tab from the top menu. That's probably redundant now.

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Archived Proposals / Re: PRE-PROPOSAL - Advertising - Google Adwords

« on: June 30, 2018, 08:46:59 AM »

it might be under /var/log/apache/referer.log

i'm not familiar with wordpress (i don't think they provide keyword analysis out of the box and requires a plugin). I'll ask a friend who is a wordpress host provider so he can recommend some tools for future analysis.

you can burn through money quickly online advertising... so my point is to educate yourself and go slowly. i think bitcointalk forum is likely the best source of crypto friendly traffic.

Thanks! Unfortunately, I don't have access to that part of the server (maybe Rob can post the log if he reads this). But I'll install an analytics plugin on the new website (probably Google Analytics, but if your friend has any suggestions I'm happy to hear them).

Thank you for your advice, you seem to be knowledgeable in this field

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: Testnet June 2018 Mandatory Upgrade Testing Thread

« on: June 30, 2018, 08:39:08 AM »

I'm creating some proposals from the wallet now. Am I correct in asserting that the fee for the proposals are paid right from the wallet (the fee seems to be 5 BBP now, but that's probably because we are in testnet)?

Frankly, I think that is amazing!

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Archived Proposals / Re: Proposal idea: airdrop

« on: June 30, 2018, 07:11:15 AM »

I've participated in a few air drops and I'm on earn.com -- Honestly, I haven't followed any of the altcoins I signed up for. App downloads, social media posts, telegram joins, etc. All of them, I did, then either left or deleted the app. The only incentive was the payout and nothing else. So, how many participants are like myself in the airdrop world? How much of the airdrop would just be wasted on people like myself?

Even Jesus had a small group of disciplines that help spread his message and even died for the Gospel. Even then, they did not understand even after his death and resurrection.  So, I feel making fishers of men is important than speaking to a large crowd where you do not make believers.

I don't know anything about the airdrop side just receiving... so I'm open to hearing your thoughts.

I absolutely see your point. The reason I had the idea for an airdrop is because I also participated in some airdrops myself also. And indeed the overwhelming majority was of the 'fire and forget' type, and I didn't  even read what they were about. Just a quick buck on the side. Retweet, fill in my ether-adres, and done.

I think that our airdrop is different form most, because to be able to receive the airdrop, you're practically already mining BiblePay. You need to have a BiblePay address (meaning you will most probably download a wallet), and you need to have RAC (meaning you don't just have to create a Rosetta@home account (and join our team) but also solved at least one task). That's a big hurdle for most.

I think that for most people this costs way to much time and effort (at least way more than retweet something, join a telegram group and fill in your ether-address). In my view, having an airdrop is about 'getting out there'. We get retweets and airdrop groups showing us on their websites, telegrams and twitters. Are there are bound to be people among there that are like you and me: they participate in airdrops but also think that BiblePay is actually something worthwhile.

In the end you receive some dollars worth of BBP and the only thing you have left to do is to associate your wallet with your Rosetta@home account, and you're done.

I don't want to give away any more than necessary. And I want to do a quality airdrop. Meaning that I want this airdrop to succeed in getting people on board that really see our value. Combining a tough airdrop proces with a nice reward I think has the ability to do these things.

I also don't need to spend the entire airdrop budget. If we do it ourselves, we can decide as a community how long we will do the airdrop and how much we want to spend

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: Testnet June 2018 Mandatory Upgrade Testing Thread

« on: June 29, 2018, 02:29:43 AM »

One of my testnet-wallets crashed with this message:

terminate called after throwing an instance of 'std::runtime_error'
  what():  CWallet::GenerateNewKey(): AddKey failed
Aborted (core dumped)

I don't think there is anything unusual in the debug.log.

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Archived Proposals / Re: Proposal idea: airdrop

« on: June 29, 2018, 02:06:52 AM »

Maybe we should add one thing to the list above: a social media post. Maybe we can let people choose between twitter/facebook/instagram whatever, and add a link to that post to the form. This way we also spread more awareness while doing the airdrop.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: Testnet June 2018 Mandatory Upgrade Testing Thread

« on: June 29, 2018, 02:04:31 AM »

Can someone send me 501k tBBP to yW3evG8mKvbb8oL6Tq9bys7KrxxadMuWMj ?

Sent

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Archived Proposals / Re: PRE-PROPOSAL - Advertising - Google Adwords

« on: June 28, 2018, 02:35:24 AM »

why dont run "bounty or airdrop campain" and give people some BBP for twiting, sharing and that stuff, later bibplepay will rank up on Search Engine. We need SEO...

We are also planning that. Please see this thread if you have any suggestions:
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=120.0

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: Testnet June 2018 Mandatory Upgrade Testing Thread

« on: June 28, 2018, 02:33:27 AM »

biblepaytest.conf
testnet=1
server=1
masternodeprivkey=xxx
masternode=0

then i ran biblepay-qt -conf=biblepaytest.conf but when i go to tools debug console, says network is main.

my receive address starts with a b, so i don't think i'm in testnet

-conf didn't work for me, but putting testnet=1 in biblepay.conf worked.

sorry if you covered in this thread or another...

looks like i mined 1M in a few minutes enough for MN.

I never tried the '-conf' line, but you can also add the '-testnet' line, and your wallet will start in testnet.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: Testnet June 2018 Mandatory Upgrade Testing Thread

« on: June 27, 2018, 11:14:27 AM »

Could someone do me a favor who is running the daemon and see if this has stopped happening?

https://github.com/biblepay/biblepay/issues/5

I never had this happen to me...