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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 23, 2018, 01:14:10 PM »

I forgot to mention that earlier- if you hide your PCs while you are a member of biblepay, two things go bad for that CPID:
1) The PODCUpdate fails, because it cant figure out what tasks are part of each hostid.  So no UTXOWeight = 0 reward
2) The Sanc will not be able to figure any ARM RAC, so the user would not be able to ever become an Unbanked CPID either

So with those together : Hiding PC's from Biblepay = No Research Reward

That's interesting because my TaskWeight and UTXOWeight are 100.
But i'm going to unhide it


Admin EDIT:  But, I forgot to tell you all the fact that I unhid it today!  So maybe it isnt Biblepay, maybe its ME.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 23, 2018, 12:27:05 PM »

Yeah, I think this is potentially resolved now but let me go over the feature now.
I think we can have the Sanctuary pull the unbanked report in the morning before it processes the RAC from its user file.

Please click on the unbanked report in the pool - its under Reports | Rosetta Unbanked report.

This thing pulls the Non-Arm RAC vs the ARM Rac for CPIDs who have ARM Rac > 0.

So what I think we can do is filter this report in the mornings , while its processing its User file, to find CPIDs who have LESS than 15 NonArm Rac, and Arm RAC > 0 into a little list of Ünbanked CPIDs.  So in this case, Rastiks is the Only one who would qualify as of today.

Rastiks Rosetta ID is connected to a certain CPID, that CPIDs RAC would be pulled in with no questions - everyone else would not be included. 

Rob and what about poeple like me, if I have hidden PC's?
I have no problem to unhide it, but it's option too and we must count with it.
To the ARM based phones. On Rosettas CPU models page you can see all ARM based CPUs: https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/cpu_list.php
But what is interesting and like you wrote before some CPUs are not visible.
E.g. my Galaxy S7 has blank CPU model too. And it is arm64 based Exynos 8890 soc with a Quad-Core 2.3 GHz + Quad-Core 1.6 GHz.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 23, 2018, 12:12:22 PM »

In testnet we use what's call hot sanctuaries where the controller wallet is on the same machine as the Sanctuary. Once in production, you should really have you wallet on your home computer, never run your wallet on the VPS!

I have only one notebook PC and it is not possible to run it 24/7 that's why i ordered VPS. And that's why I'm aware of running controller wallet. But that's only my situation and my problems

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 23, 2018, 12:09:24 PM »

Would it be more transparent if the Sanc just looks the CPID up to see if it's an arm processor?

By the way, I started on the research assignment and right now I'm trying to figure out how much you can make with your phone per day. I think we might have to have a certain percentage of the block reward to be allocated to cellphones for it to be profitably for them. (So they have enough to buy bread.)

Hi Mike, I'm testing my phones/tablets too
Like I wrote earlier my Nexus 4 is doing very well: https://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/host/detail/333426255/lastDays
It is interresting, that old Nexus 4 is doing better than my Galaxy S7.
I don't know why. N4 runs on 2 of 4 cores. S7 4 of 8 cores, but when I look at completed tasks Nexus 4 has avg task run time 14500 sec and CPU time 14500, but S7 has avg run time 14500, but only 7000 CPU time. And the reward is only 1/2 from N4 too. Now I'm testing S7 only on 2 cores, so we will see. Difference is, that N4 is "mining" 24/7 and S7 is my primary phone, so it runs boinc mainly on night. I've tested 3 others tablets/phones. One intel based tablet wasn't compatible with rosetta. One old LG phone was compatible ARM based, but all tasks was denied (don't know why). And one old ARM based tablet was running fine, but with very small rewards.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 23, 2018, 03:38:55 AM »

Yeah, I'm using the latest wallet and BOINC on my windows pc now. But I can't mine and use BOINC at the same time, because the wallet will use too much of the cpu-cycles and BOINC stops processing.

I don't know how to tweak the settings so that I can use both.

That also brings me to an other question about poor people all over the world using their phone to mine BBP (which I think will be a great application for Biblepay). How would one go about this? Would one person have a wallet running somewhere 24/7, and other people (with phones and tablets) would be running BOINC, and the person with the wallet would divide the collected BBP? Just thinking out loud.

Because I always liked the idea of 'one-click-mining', especially in combination with mobile phones and tablets, because even though - for example - a lot of people in Afrika are poor, a lót of them have a phone (although I don't know how many have smartphones).

Hi.
I was fighting with this too
I have ordered "weak" linux based VPS for 24/7 wallet but I wanted to run boinc there too.
So, my solution is: run biblepay with setgenerate true 1. Of course it consumes more than 90% of CPU so rosetta won't work. But than I install "cpulimit" (apt-get install cpulimit). It is very useful for this. Than you can usse it with command like this: "cpulimit -b -l 15 -m -p 1607" what means allow PID nr 1607 to spend max 15% of CPU. After this my BBP process consumes 15-20% of CPU and rosetta eats rest to 100

And shared wallet was of my thought too. What about creating some Rosetta/BBP pool? Rob will it be possible to change pool to handle this?

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 23, 2018, 03:27:22 AM »

Yes, since we are not POS, I suppose we would need to program some things in to "unlock for staking only" etc, but for now, yes it has to be unlocked for PODC updates as not only is it sending you a coinstake with UTXO in it, but there is a transaction fee in that transaction for the Task Transmission.

So, that was my problem. It is a must-have to have option "unlock for PoDC only".
I am afraid to have my wallet on 24/7 server and if it should be unlocked it is even worst
Now I ordered VPS for testnet, but I am worried to unlock my wallet with command line. Ok there is option to delete bash history, but
It is possible to implement function "unlock for PoDC only" to options, or even better will be unlocked for PoDC everytime?
EDIT: maybe option "unlock for PoDC" may unlock wallet for PoDC without need to write password and run setgenerate true 1 automatically.

Next question Do I understand it correctly, that for now is 24/7 control wallet must-have even for mobile phone?

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 22, 2018, 04:42:34 PM »

You can force it with exec podcupdate, or just wait 24 hours and lets see if everything works correctly.
If you are using 'setgenerate true=1' (or higher) it should be sending a podcupdate within 8 hours.

Ive got to head out, Ill be back in about 4 hours.

Ok. thanks. And the wallet must be unlocked?

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 22, 2018, 03:52:00 PM »

Rob, when does it change??
  "04fba56d89a5eb38b1b82f8a6240132c_TaskWeight": 0,
  "04fba56d89a5eb38b1b82f8a6240132c_UTXOWeight": 0,
On starting new task, or on the end?
And second T-mike's question... how it is Task Integrity calculated?

oh.. EDIT when i will be "mine" only on rosetta without online master wallet I will be DR level 3?

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 21, 2018, 05:35:59 PM »

Thanks. And small detail to the future. I think, that will be fair that Biblepay team country on Rosetta should be "International", not "Canada". And why is it Canada?

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 21, 2018, 02:49:06 PM »

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Otherwise, require proof of every task, every task start time, and a UTXO.  So for the small fish in the block (usually < 100 RAC or so) we could let them in.    I wouldnt mind programming that in, especially for usability in 3rd world countries.
...

Rob, to the small fishes
My Nexus 4 testing is going really great. Just for imagination my RAC on that device is 280 Of course it runs almost 24/7.
https://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/host/detail/333426255/lastDays
Oh... to the data consuption... In those 6 days it spent approx. 1GB.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 19, 2018, 05:25:44 PM »

Ok. Now to testing After update I've must to start mining to have some tBBP to join Rosetta. Now I'm in, but my magnitude is 0. It all starts from zero after update?

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 19, 2018, 05:07:38 PM »

I catch your drift, but I think security and integrity trumps usability in this case. 

Im open to suggestions, but driving our price up due to a breakthrough feature, and helping 100,000 orphans is much much more important.  If our price goes up, people will find a way to leave a controller wallet running and then mine on multiple tablets .

I agree with you. I just wanted to point on another point of view You're making great job and I'm impressed with yours fast making concept/programming ability. Thanks.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 19, 2018, 04:44:49 PM »

The small devices would still work, but this would require a controller wallet running to know when the small device starts hashing.

Thinking about this a little deeper,  that might be a big boon for biblepay.  This would mean to get paid you need to keep your controller wallet running so it can send messages that your devices are starting tasks.  Thats a plus for our security , as that means our networking full node count is higher and the POW-heat side would not be virtually zero.  So this is actually a reasonable and positive requirement....

Lets think about this.

This would be a big minus for me. My controller wallet is on my notebook, which is my only one PC and that is not running 24/7. I really don't like an idea to put my wallet somewhere to run it 24/7 (e.g. VPS). I like current state It is ideal for me. OK, i'm just a small fish here, but I think, that you want to point this coin to people like me too. If there will be mobile phone wallet with this option, it wouldn't be so bad. This would be acceptable to almost everyone. There will be just another problem. You must be still online , so you need to pay mobile data. In developing countries it may be problem too. OK. I must stop writing, I'm really not optimistic But I like a PoDC a lot.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 17, 2018, 01:05:34 PM »

Did you have to do anything to get your phone to run 24/7? I have mine plugged in but it will only work for a few hours then it will suspend it self. I have to manually start it again afterwards.

Hi, like I said, I had many problems with it. Even when the phone was on charger it still had problem and wanted to plug in the power source. At the end my settings are approx like this: battery as power source, 0% min. battery, 2 CPU cores (2 of 4), 100% CPU limit, stop with CPU usage ove 80%. Now it is working almost perfectly with some small issues yesterday.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 16, 2018, 04:26:00 PM »

You are in there - but the problem with Orbis is his computers are hidden.  Orbis you have to unhide computers to be in the leaderboard.

ok. I must check the settings and find it... But maybe it doesnt matter anymore, because all my VPS are ending today
So I will be without any "external help"...
My only 24/7 device will be my old Nexus 4 and maybe this will be interresting for you Rob.
It is old phone, comparable to nowaday mid range.

I test it for 2 days now. There were some problems on beginning and I've found that I need to use only 2 of 4 cores to run it properly.
After two days: Total credit   1015 ; Average credit   89.93
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/results.php?hostid=3352819