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Re: Bitcointalk Forum Advertising
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2018, 07:37:46 PM »
Hi Togo,

I'll let you know if I find any popular cryptocurrency forum.

I am attaching the files of the last banner, so you can modify and use it as you wish, now it's yours.



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Re: Bitcointalk Forum Advertising
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2018, 08:12:12 AM »
Thanks for trying Togo!

I just sent Theymos a PM with a full description of our go live and my perspective on this.

Lets see if it reaches him.



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Re: Bitcointalk Forum Advertising
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2018, 08:38:36 PM »
Phore, a masternode coin, a fork of PIVX, got 2 banner ads on bitcointalk for Round #240 last week
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3218541.msg34322333#msg34322333

This is great news, meaning Theymos has opened up to masternode coins

I dont think we have the funding right now,
1 ad slot is going to cost about 0.26 BTC ($2,100)

But there is hope now,
Im tempted to bring it up in the current ad banner auction thread and see if we have the go ahead, Im not sure what to do
Current Round #241 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3289439.0


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Re: Bitcointalk Forum Advertising
« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2018, 09:50:21 AM »
I submitted a 0.04 BTC bid for 1 ad banner slot in this weeks auction
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4471292.msg40124117#msg40124117

Im testing the waters to see what theymos says


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Re: Bitcointalk Forum Advertising
« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2018, 04:54:06 PM »
We were rejected again by Theymos on June 20th
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4471292.msg40517470#msg40517470

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Rejected. I've decided that masternode coins can sometimes be acceptable, but Biblepay seems highly deceptive. For example, you say "10% of the emission goes to sponsoring Orphans, with provable contributions," but:
 - 10% of the monthly emission should be somewhere around 6 million coins, but the monthly trade volume tends to be only slightly higher than this, which is unbelievable if you're actually selling the coins in order to make donations.
 - This 10% goes to a hardcoded non-multisig address with no explanation.
 - "THE COIN HAS RPC COMMANDS THAT PROVE 100% OF CONTRIBUTIONS ARE SPENT THE WAY INTENDED" is completely false. The RPC command just totals up all of the payments to the hardcoded address. What happens after the coins go to that address is unexplained.
 - There is no non-profit registration, receipts for donations, any info about the people who are supposedly facilitating donations, etc.
 
Biblepay looks like a generic coin with hardcoded dev subsidy plus some probably-totally-fabricated marketing about orphans.

Forum Talk Afterwards:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2388064.msg40625636#msg40625636
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2388064.msg40628344#msg40628344
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2388064.msg40656672#msg40656672
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2388064.msg40660471#msg40660471
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2388064.msg40664957#msg40664957
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2388064.msg40689738#msg40689738
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2388064.msg40694912#msg40694912

Summary? I think its missing some info
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2683343.msg41695897#msg41695897
« Last Edit: August 12, 2018, 05:03:01 PM by togoshigekata »


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Re: Bitcointalk Forum Advertising
« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2018, 05:43:16 PM »
Is this the best summary of proof? Is there anything we are missing?

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BiblePay Team:
https://www.biblepay.org/cryptoguru/#_team

BiblePay Foundation - Non-Profit Texas Corporation:
https://wiki.biblepay.org/BiblePay_DAO

BiblePay White Paper:
https://pool.biblepay.org/Docs/BiblePay_White_Paper.pdf

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What Evidence/Proof does BiblePay have of 10% Charity Donations?

Accountability: http://accountability.biblepay.org/

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CHARITY #1

Compassion International
https://www.compassion.com/

"All of our Actual Orphan ID #s are listed in:
http://pool.biblepay.org/ >>> "Orphans" >>> "Sponsored Orphan List"

Also, the receipts I posted in EXPENSES are the actual payments I made on my credit card.
I have a copy here in case the IRS comes to my house." -Rob (Creator)

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COMPASSION INTL
ORGANIZATION NAME: BIBLEPAY
ACCOUNT #: 07816292

PHONE# : (800) 336-7676
HOURS: Monday through Friday, 7 a.m. to 5:30 p.m.
Mailing address: Compassion International Colorado Springs, CO 80997
ORG CONTACT: ROBERT A.

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thesnat21 called Compassion, confirmed 305 orphan sponsorships:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2388064.msg40663169#msg40663169

Brian879 called Compassion, confirmed 308 orphan sponsorships:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2388064.msg40664957#msg40664957

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Contact:
Ginger Langehennig
Area Director of Donor Relations
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ginger-langehennig-4b31981b/
832-797-3749 or [email protected]

Proposals:
December - https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=53.0
February - https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=105.0
March - https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=137.0
April - https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=162.0
May - https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=181.0
June - https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=195.0

Pictures:
https://pool.biblepay.org/ >>> Orphans >>> Sponsored Orphan List

Tmike talking to Ginger from Compassion:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2388064.msg39981340#msg39981340

Rob's Scan of Ginger's Pamphlet:
http://pool.biblepay.org/san/mission/CompassionMeetingGinger.pdf

Statement from Santiago “Jimmy” Mellado, President & CEO, Compassion International
https://medium.com/biblepay-news/charity-profile-compassion-international-75741753e1c8

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CHARITY #2

BLOOM (Be Love Orphan Outreach Missions)
http://www.bloomworldwide.org/

Contact:
Executive Director, April Wareham
[email protected]

Proposals:
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=73.0
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=150.0
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=186.0
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=219.0
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=227.0

Pictures:
https://biblepaysponsorkids.tumblr.com/post/171897500699/thank-you-bible-pay-the-children-in-uganda-have

Facebook:
https://www.facebook.com/Beloveorphanoutreach/posts/1603251943055348

Newsletter:
https://mailchi.mp/bceb933b9ea4/updates-straight-from-africa

Testimonials from BLOOM and CameroonONE
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2388064.msg39527580#msg39527580

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CHARITY #3

CameroonONE
https://www.cameroonone.org/

Contact:
Director of Operations, Todd Finklestone

Proposals:
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=86.0

Pictures:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/fs0ckd8gvjuilko/AACdrA4JyiOhdeZR4DZkpnEUa?dl=0

Tweet:
https://twitter.com/CameroonONE/status/1010845995188588549

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CHARITY #4

Kairos Childrens Fund
https://www.facebook.com/kairoschildrensfund/
https://kcf.winnegor.org/

Website Mention:
https://kcf.winnegor.org/biblepay/

Contact:
Andrew Scribner
[email protected]

Proposals:
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=201.0
https://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=226.0


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Re: Bitcointalk Forum Advertising
« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2018, 01:44:38 PM »
Is 501c3 status at the federal level being pursued for the BiblePay Foundation? If so, a pdf of the letter of exemption might be good to provide. This would be in addition to the Texas SOS registration that you note is in place.

Even if the application is currently in process (i.e. has been filled out and mailed in to the IRS with the corresponding application fee), you can show a copy of the initial letter they send (showing that the application has been received) or just state that the IRS non-profit exemption has been applied for and is currently pending.   


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Re: Bitcointalk Forum Advertising
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2018, 05:16:17 AM »
On the BiblePay Foundation, Im not sure if anything has been filed yet

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I went ahead and put in an auction for us again, with a link to a post I made of Rob's response to Theymos's concerns and all of our details/evidence for Charity Donations:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5027613.msg45820733#msg45820733
« Last Edit: September 17, 2018, 05:39:45 AM by togoshigekata »


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Re: Bitcointalk Forum Advertising
« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2018, 11:25:30 AM »
Rejected a 3rd time by Theymos:
"Sorry, I'm still not convinced."
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5027613.msg46098258#msg46098258


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Re: Bitcointalk Forum Advertising
« Reply #24 on: October 18, 2018, 09:07:47 PM »
Rejected a 4th time

"Still no. I'd probably only be comfortable with BiblePay if a lot more info, news, and third-party reviews of your practices come out. As-is, I'm not particularly convinced by your responses to my previous concerns (though admittedly I don't have time to spend more than a few minutes looking at it), and I see a lot of red flags. If I was convinced that BiblePay was like "Litecoin with a bible theme and a donation thing", then I'd probably allow it."
Reference: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5044744.msg47033776#msg47033776

Bitcointalk Investigation:
"Topic: BiblePay (BBP) - Are BiblePay's Charity Donations Legitimate?  (Read 246 times)"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5030640

Bitcointalk post with some ideas:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2388064.msg47034927#msg47034927