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Archived Proposals / Re: Dec 2018 TestNet & Tech Support

« on: January 19, 2019, 01:09:47 PM »

In general I don't believe we have been charging for testnet hours - could you consider charging this against a project other than testnet testing?

And could you please breakdown the testnet portion out of the total?

Also, when you say you have been helping others in Discord, could you provide an example of an issue you helped on?  Also please clarify that you are not charging for time in Discord chatting to others about non-support issues- Thanks.

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Archived Proposals / Cameroon One 2019 Quarter 1

« on: January 19, 2019, 12:51:34 PM »

It's time to renew our relationship with Cameroon One for the year 2019!

We currently sponsor 10 orphans through Cameroon One:
CAMEROON-BHE-CHRISTABLE   Bhe Christable   https://pool.biblepay.org/SAN/Mission/Cameroon/BheChristable.png
CAMEROON-BIH-ENCARNASIO   Bih Encarnasio   https://pool.biblepay.org/SAN/Mission/Cameroon/BihEncarnasio.jpg
CAMEROON-CHE-BRIAN   Che Brian   https://pool.biblepay.org/SAN/Mission/Cameroon/CheBrian.png
CAMEROON-CHE-SAMUEL   Che Samuel   https://pool.biblepay.org/SAN/Mission/Cameroon/CheSamuel.jpg
CAMEROON-FRU-NJI   Fru Nji   https://pool.biblepay.org/SAN/Mission/Cameroon/FruNji.jpg
CAMEROON-FUHNI-RANDY   Fuhni Randy   https://pool.biblepay.org/SAN/Mission/Cameroon/FuhniRandy.jpg
CAMEROON-MAMBO-LORA   Mambo Lora   https://pool.biblepay.org/SAN/Mission/Cameroon/MamboLora.png
CAMEROON-NDE-HARISON   Nde Harison   https://pool.biblepay.org/SAN/Mission/Cameroon/NdeHarison.png
CAMEROON-NGUM-CAROL   Ngum Carol   https://pool.biblepay.org/SAN/Mission/Cameroon/NgumCarol.png
CAMEROON-SWERI-MARYLEIN   Sweri Marylein   https://pool.biblepay.org/SAN/Mission/Cameroon/SweriMarylein.png


Our budget ran out on the last day of 2018.

I've had initial talks with Todd from Cameroon, and I must say I am extremely excited about continuing our relationship and expanding it.

I mentioned to Todd that we had a little bit of unhappiness with his competitor (our primary orphan partnership) - the organization's lack of motivation in certain areas.  Without being negative, we have met resistance when we asked if we could start an ad campaign and use the partner's logo and boilerplate message next to our primary campaign logo, also met resistance when seeking IT relationships for the creation of Orphan Mining, met resistance when asked if we could have more than one auditing report, and met resistance when asking if we could have assistance in Biblepay liquidation (to fiat).  This led me to ask Todd if Cameroon would be more flexible, and to my great pleasure, Todd has gone the extra mile for us, and promised to extend our relationship by accommodating us in many more ways (for example, working with us on IT projects, and liquidating BiblePay!).

In light of this I believe the least we can do is extend our current relationship through 2019 and not impact our Cameroon in any way.  We may even consider expanding our relationship with Cameroon, if our budget permits, at the expense of our other orphanages who do not feel like working with us.

Therefore, I am requesting that we pay Cameroon in 4 quarterly installments.  We must raise $4,000 per year, equaling $1000 per installment.

For installment one, I am requesting $1000 or 2,439,024 BBP at current rates.

Thank you!

EDIT: ! NOTE !   We are going to send the winning proposal funds directly to Todd for liquidation!  I am excited about this, as Todd as stepped up and agreed to help us decentralize BiblePay.

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Archived Proposals / Jan 2019 IT Expenses and Payroll

« on: January 19, 2019, 12:33:54 PM »

I worked approx 120 hours in October for BiblePay on Core maintenance, Core new development, core support, and Pool support (as related to Orphan support and SQL administration).

$120 * $40hr = $4800 = 11.7MM BBP;  Capping at 3 Mil to allow other parts of the IT budget to be paid.




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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving

« on: January 19, 2019, 10:39:05 AM »

I've tested it in many way and many times, but I'm sill not able to reach better times. I really don't know why. Sorry. I'm not able to test it on different PC right now.
I agree with Sunk.

So on the IPFS issue, you don't need to be running an IPFS node for performance, no;  You only need to run an IPFS node (in the future) to help us store Christian videos (we can talk about that in a separate thread).  But for now, to help diagnose your problem, you can upload a few 2meg or so videos into transactions (using Sendmoney), scrape the indivudal links (by viewing the transaction you received in the txlist), and clocking them to see how long the download time is for BiblePay IPFS vs hosting the same links on your favorite cloud provider.    But since you are the only person it is happening to and the single PC this is happening on and have no ability to try on your work machine or families machine it points to a single problem on your individual PC.

As far as a GUI checkbox, we will take that into consideration during the tryout phase of POG in prod (along with all the other things going on in parallel).

My biggest source of excitement is to soon watch the basline of POG users in Prod increasing... Hallelujah and Praise Jesus!

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving

« on: January 18, 2019, 07:30:44 PM »

So I take it from the lack of response - that everyones business object list is loading fast?  Please take a moment to run the wallet in prod mode and list our business object | orphan list or Expense list.  Im confident it works fine because Ive tested this on over 7 nodes on both windows and linux, so it points to Orbiss machine being plagued with a web plugin.

On another note, I finished the small parts of the punchlist yesterday and I think we are really close to a Prod release schedule now.  I believe I will be leaving off 'orphan writing' for the time being until we can test Voting and Editing an orphan letter. 

So prod would include POG to extend POBH only, adding the POG leaderboard, and everything else but Orphan writing.

In the mean time I need to check with CoinExchange and make sure they are onboard with an early to mid February mandatory.  Ill check this tomorrow, and enter a Sanc vote for redirecting payments from POBH to POG in Prod (for procedural integrity).

Madmurphy, how do your daily payments look, basically what you would have expeceted for the amount you Tithed?

Can anyone think of anything we are missing in relationship to last minute features or double checks before we go live?

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving

« on: January 16, 2019, 03:32:38 PM »

I have 500Mbit download link and I haven't problem to download and play on my PC, so I think this is not the root cause
I think that it can be problem of my peers. I dont have a masternode.
I've made some tests and here are results:
Testnet (5 peers, avg ping around 180ms):
Click on Bussiness object list: avg 12s (longest 40s, shortest 5s)
List Orphan: avg 15s
List letters: avg 12s
lis expense: avg 10s

Production (8 peers, avg ping around 100ms):
Click on Bussiness object list: avg 8s (longest 19s, shortest 6s)
List Orphan: avg 80s (longest 100s, shortest 75s)
List letters: NA
lis expense: avg 15s

After few retries to list orphans my wallet just didn't react and after 5 minutes I just need to use force close.
I dont know why. In debug log there are many records of this repeating:

Code: [Select]

objecttype orphan  domain 207.148.5.184  sending 207.148.5.184I was not able to reproduce it again too
I will try to check it again and find the reason.

Just to look at this Business Object List | Rt Click on Orphan | List  (taking longer than a couple seconds) deeper, I want to mention, I have a few low end $1-$2 per month QT sancs running, and I have clicked these lists from my QT sancs, and they still load up in about 1 second (total) - IE listing all the records.

Lets try to isolate this down to "potentially" being something in your machine (like a web plugin, or webpage blocking antivirus ) etc.

Lets ask everyone else- is there anyone here in testnet that it takes longer than 5 secs to load one of the business object lists (or exactly the one above in testnet)?

Also Orbis, can you please try this on one of your cloud VMs or a friends or kids pc that is not the same PC?

Im thinking something on your machine is blocking the traffic.  IPFS currently uses port 8080 to talk.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving

« on: January 16, 2019, 10:52:57 AM »

I checked other new features in wallet and theyre working
Nice.

Thanks for the wishlist, this provides very good feedback.

Orbis' wish-list:

• Pogpool looks super, but maybe some highlight of my name in leaderboard would be awesome.

->  On a side note, the pogpool list does refresh once per minute.  Good idea on the highlight!
(I added to my punchlist).

• Its possible to move it from upper menu to left menu under Distributed computing? It would be more visible.

->  I think this is a good idea........  Added to my punchlist

• In send tab new captions of Pog tithe and donate are good, but on hover labels are "old" and now not actual.

->  OK, thanks, added to punchlist

• Business object list (letters, orphans) works good, but it is slow and in prod version is it slower (more objects)

->  Im not experiencing this.  When I click Expenses for example in prod (I think we have 100 expenses) I get them in about 1/2 a second.
What kind of internet provider do you have (IE how many MBPS) and is the machine beefy?  We are retrieving the docs from IPFS- IPFS has been generally very snappy for me.  (As snappy as downloading a normal web site jpeg, etc).

• Letter writing from wallet is awesome. Works for me, but there wasn't option to delete uploaded picture (within writing a letter)

->  Thanks, although I did have edit capability in mind, its not in yet.  When in review mode, the letter is read only (the buttons dont work).
However, I do plan on checking the 'ownership' of the original letter and if its yours (IE you signed it with your PK) then you will be able to edit it and it will be re-saved in IPFS over the old one (essentially replacing it).  I need to put this on the longer term IPFS schedule as its not trivial.

• Editing letter didn't work (I dont know if it can be option to edit it, but after open to review there is ability to edit it and save button, but it doesnt works)

-> This is addressed in the last item

• There is no option to vote for letter in wallet.

->  This is coming soon; we have about 33% of the voting done in the RPC but needs more work; the Vote can be executed by any user, not just a sanctuary.
This is halted because I have decided we need a thread to talk about User reputation scores.  Off the top of my head, Im thinking about replacing the
PODC exec associate command, with a new command with the ability to register a user as a Person - this establishes a reputation score going forward as you vote on things and also gives you an RSA keypair- the keypair can be used to provide permissions to other objects based on your desires (IE you may want to share a Christian space with certain collaborators).  Since this is another one not trivial, I am adding to the long term IPFS schedule.

• Time to time the width of columns in those lists is changed and Im not able to change it and I dont see anything (example in attachment).

->  I was unable to reproduce this; could you please see if anything leads up to this?


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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving

« on: January 16, 2019, 10:28:07 AM »

So, the daily superblock occurs every 205 blocks, but the min coin age calculation looks at the last 205 blocks? A rolling average/calculation? For some strange reason, I thought coin age would reset after the daily superblock payout.

The POG pool uses a width of 205 blocks for tithes that are already inducted (and for payment share weight) - on a side note, to see the block width, type 'pogpool' from the rpc (start block - end block).

The Difficulty calculation uses blocks N-2 to N-42 (IE 40 blocks of history after the last 2 blocks of history) - this provides a 2 block buffer to allow clients to agree easily on the difficulty.

After a daily payment is made, nothing is reset (IE the pog pool is always seeing the prior 205 blocks).

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving

« on: January 16, 2019, 10:23:56 AM »

I tried to tithe 10 from gui with Tithe Ability Qty 0. Did not work. I was able to tithe 10 in debug console.

I forgot to mention that the special rule only allows the tithe to pass in from the RPC (if 0-10 and in testnet).

(If you do it from the GUI you have to force the donation and then it should technically count in testnet due to the rule).

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving

« on: January 15, 2019, 01:06:34 PM »

Rob,
now I was finally able to tithe (my coinage was enough ) so I decided to try "spam" test.
At the begginig there was dif around 8k and mincoinage was around 9 days.
I startet to spam with tx "tithe 259" and then it changed so "tithe 254"
I was able to made 26 x 259 and 31 x 254 txs. Totally 14613 BBPs in tithe within 5 blocks.
Then it stops because I havent more "packages" with corresponding coinage
At the end dif is around 29,5k and mincoinage 26,9. And my weight in pool is more than 0.6 (At the beggining was near 0).
Is it OK? Someone who has enough BBP can spam like this and others wouldnt be possible to tithe.
Or am I wrong?

I think we're OK as a lot of psychological thought has gone in.

Since we don't want to discourage legal tithes (IE a person with real coin age), as that would cause them to do sneaky things like try to create multiple wallets, and we dont want to deny legal tithes on a block switch (IE we quote a certain max tithe amount for the diff, block switches and user loses the whole tithe) - that would probably give us bad reputation, etc, I came to the conclusion that If a person has the ability to tithe it should count if they tithe it.

What will happen in prod is difficulty will shoot up (even if its 3 blocks late like in your case), and prevent everyone but the whales from tithing for a certain period.
The system is not 'broken' however, in that diff will drop as a few of the whale blocks drop off the 205 block lookback window.

So this type of thing will happen, even if we have something like this going on: lets say 8 whales took 30 days to build up enough coin age and they all mature at the same time.  That means all 8 will start auto-tithing and diff will rise.  So even though nothing nefarious was going on diff rose - another words we cant predict whats going to happen in prod at any given time whether auto or manual.

So basically the client will just react to this, and the user who did it really didnt get away with anything special, they relinquised their coin age and got into the pool - they choked out everyone else for about 12~ more blocks, then as diff drops others can get back in. 

I do think that diff could be very high in prod due to this, but also remember right now we are only using 10% of our budget since PODC is still active.  If we open the budget up diff would drop significantly.

On this subject in the opposite scenario, for a couple days in testnet my two whale nodes didnt have enough coin age to participate (RAndrews had an 80 mil balance) and couldnt get in the pool for 2 days now - and I observed low diff for a while;

So I think this situation will be similar to the cycles we see with BOINC rac, its interesting how we can observe elliott wave cycles even in apparently random sources.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving

« on: January 15, 2019, 12:48:32 PM »

Checked and now it's this balance a lot higher
It is around 8,2M, my balance is 8,7M, so there is still some gap, but it's a lot better.
Thanks.

I checked other new features in wallet and theyre working
Nice.

• Pogpool looks super, but maybe some highlight of my name in leaderboard would be awesome.
• Its possible to move it from upper menu to left menu under Distributed computing? It would be more visible.
• In send tab new captions of Pog tithe and donate are good, but on hover labels are "old" and now not actual.
• Business object list (letters, orphans) works good, but it is slow and in prod version is it slower (more objects)
• Letter writing from wallet is awesome. Works for me, but there wasn't option to delete uploaded picture (within writing a letter)
• Editing letter didn't work (I dont know if it can be option to edit it, but after open to review there is ability to edit it and save button, but it doesnt works)
• There is no option to vote for letter in wallet.
• Time to time the width of columns in those lists is changed and Im not able to change it and I dont see anything (example in attachment).

Thats all from my first sight

Hi Orbis,  On the 500K gap in the balance of exec getdimensionalbalance,  the wallet (by default) avoids spending locked Sanc funds (IE the user has to manually unlock them in coin control).  So you should be within 1 bbp if you take that into account.  If you are off by more than 1 bbp, let me know and Ill explain how to turn on auditing.

Ill have to take a look at these other points - thanks.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving

« on: January 15, 2019, 12:44:37 PM »

Thanks Rob that worked testnet is running now

Do you need my normal receiving  address or do you need one specific to testnet ?

normal address -  BEmj3ZHKDRTL1BfkiGZmoNbTYpCUQNbnZM

testnet address -   yNCqktHRwzyjvJ55hYdvs17USm8ZYQyDFi

Great!  Yeah I see Orbis told you about the nickname, good, I forgot, yes that will let us see you in the pogpool as madmurphy.

I just sent 2 mil.

So we put a special rule in testnet to allow you to tithe even without coin age.  Now you can send up to 10 bbp to the pool.
You can either do it from the rpc:  'tithe 10' Or, you can go to the Send Money page,  click POG Tithe, then populate the amount.




Yes, thanks for the heads up on the Pool!

Im trying to fix that right now  - its just the main page btw - so luckily its not causing errors otherwise.  Checking....

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving

« on: January 15, 2019, 11:00:06 AM »

Hi Rob

I have created a file like requested and inputted

tithe=10
genproclimit=1
gen=1
testnet=1

I have tried to start up my wallet normally and by right clicking on the conf file and choosing open with biblepay-qt.exe but still seems like I am on the normal wallet not testnet.

I assume you are on windows; there is a way to create a Shortcut in windows passing the parameter, but since testnet is pretty temporary, you can do it from the command line instead-

If you go to Start | Search | cmd <enter>
A command prompt opens

cd c:\program files\biblepaycore
Launch like this:
biblepay-qt -conf=biblepaytest.conf

Ensure the conf file is in your %appdata%\biblepaycore dir.

Then see if it launches from testnet.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving

« on: January 15, 2019, 09:12:54 AM »

Hi everyone

Is there an idiots guide to setting the "Testnet" up, showing what exactly one has to do. I have looked at a couple of links I have seen posted in here and they make no sense to me, or they do not tell me what I need to know. Meaning how do I set up my wallet config file and things like that, I am running the latest version of the wallet on windows .1.1.8.2.

Welcome aboard!  Thanks for joining!

Well so much has changed since post 1, honestly it has become a lot easier, so we might as well just start over.

Its so easy at this point to POG mine, all you really should need to do is:

create a 'biblepaytest.conf' file in the :
~/.biblepaycore
directory

with:

tithe=10
genproclimit=1
gen=1
testnet=1


In it.


Start the biblepay-qt with:

./biblepay-qt -conf=biblepaytest.conf


If you are running windows, place that file here instead:
%appdata%\biblepaycore

Let me know if you boot into testnet, and what your recieve address is and Ill send you some coins.


Then later all you have to do is donate 10.0 or less BBP to the foundation, and click on the POG Pool UI menu option to see if you enter the pool.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving

« on: January 14, 2019, 06:56:23 PM »

I have 1181b. Total is now higher but still only 960k tBBP.
But in prod version my wallet shows good balance in getdim...
So, just tell me how to send you my testnet wallet
I think thats only my wallet problem, or my and I am not able to do it correctly

Ok, I found the problem thanks to having your wallet.

The problem was the way in which the wallet database query was being converted back to the users list vector (IE any duplicate transaction amount or age was being discarded in the return list).  Ironically this didn't affect the actual tithing coin selection (because we only pick one at a time when tithing), but nevertheless we want this to be exact and not take any chances, so I ended up modifying some things that did break compatibility.

Now we need a mandatory upgrade in testnet.

Could everyone please upgrade?

Also Orbis, please check your dimensional coins now and see if they match.