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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving

« on: January 24, 2019, 10:30:02 AM »

Rob, are you sure about this?
Did you tried it anytime?
I've same experience as Sunk. When I've made zaptx-2 I've still lose coin-age.
That was my remark to change coin-age calculation, because after zaptx-2, number of confirmations was still correct, but coin-age was the same for all txs (same as time of zaptx-2).
Zaptx-1 didn't change coin-age for me, but zaptx-2 is different.

zapwallettxes=2 is more destructive. I wonder if "drop tx meta data" is referring to coin-age? Well, it seems more like zptx=2 forgets the date the transaction actually occurred and makes an assumption the transaction occurred now. If we have a testnet explorer, we could compare the two dates possibly and see the tx actually occurred at a different time in the past.

I haven't looked at the BBP code so I don't know if the Bitcoin entry is correct as code could have diverged...


https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Running_Bitcoin

-zapwallettxes=<mode>   Delete all wallet transactions and only recover those parts of the blockchain through -rescan on startup
(1 = keep tx meta data e.g. account owner and payment request information,
2 = drop tx meta data)

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving

« on: January 23, 2019, 05:38:41 PM »

1) Ive never used zapwallettxes=2, also, I dont recommend it.
2) You dont lose coin age by rebuilding your wallet.

when zapwallettxes=1 doesn't work, I will sometimes do zapwallettxes=2

not related to biblepay, but I was able to recover lost funds using =2 on a different altcoin, so it has its place when a reindex fails.

Glad to hear 1183 was a dud because I was about to pull my hair out (what little I have left of it).

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving

« on: January 23, 2019, 02:36:07 PM »

As far as "?" marks in your tx list, that means you havent cleared your orphan tx's with -zapwallettxes=1 yet.

i tried with -zapwallettxes=1 and then tried the more destructive -zapwallettxes=2 ... The tx with the ? disappeared, but then new ones are appearing. I already lost all my coin age with zapwallettxes=2 but I may have to salvage my wallet.dat and blow everything away and start over.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving

« on: January 23, 2019, 09:51:11 AM »

I'm on 1183 but all tx seem to be ? since about 7-8 hours ago. Strange.

Also, If someone has same nickname, how do you know you are chatting with the correct person? I could pose as someone else and then you are not chatting with the person you think you are.

Can we maybe have a shortname created from our tithe address. Maybe 6 characters that a hash of the hash that uniquely identifies us from the rest of the blockchain?

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving

« on: January 20, 2019, 08:46:15 PM »

(but not more than 5 seconds).  Orbis said 5 minutes, which is clearly an HTTP timeout on his PC for certain calls.

The main thing I caution is to not try to blame biblepay for something that is broken on one persons machine.

Thanks. I thought he said 5 seconds, but 5 minutes... you're right is too long of a wait. I'm not getting that at all.

Short term, could he run IPFS node locally and see if it helps with response times after IPFS node is synced up?

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Archived Proposals / Re: Re-Enable Team BiblePay Requirement in PODC

« on: January 20, 2019, 07:48:44 PM »

But anyway, we enabled the spork today that enforces coin-age in UTXOs.  That will affect *some* of the network and sancs by itself.
After this vote ends, we will keep re-assessing.  If the problem is still severe in 3 days, we will ask the sancs to upgrade so as to enforce coin-age early.

So, can you explain exec podcupdate in more detail?

It seems like every PoDC update re-adjust my PoDC input to an output with UTXO target and a change address. Does that mean that PoDC coin age updates to 0 coin age?

There's only only BBP address for a CPID right? So, if I need to stake more in my wallet for 100% PoDC payment, couldn't QT wallet send non-PoDC balance to a new PoDC balance don't destroy the coin age of other PoDC balances? That way, you know the coin age of each balance. You exclude min coin age < 1.5 day (to prevent wallet hoppers that exec podcupdate once a day), and you do the math from block 1 to now for all the inputs & ouputs of the PoDC balance?

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Archived Proposals / Re: Re-Enable Team BiblePay Requirement in PODC

« on: January 20, 2019, 02:58:46 AM »

Oh, and I just realized this is the wrong solution to the problem. You know why?

BM9hu373mUL4o9NiPB5j48jtD8oZomiUDU just needs to join Team BiblePay. Worst case, he can't earn GridCoin (which pay less anyway per RAC), but s/he can still earn ByteBall (now OByte). So, if you are motivated by greed, the logical step is to join Team BiblePay since BBP pays better than GRC. In the end, you piss off many people and you still have a cheater doing PoDC.

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Archived Proposals / Re: Re-Enable Team BiblePay Requirement in PODC

« on: January 20, 2019, 02:55:17 AM »

I VOTE NO.
I VOTE NO.

what about grcpool1,2,3 ? they are staking properly for their 3M RAC?

https://forum.biblepay.org/tools/podcstatus.php?cpid=7d0d73fe026d66fd4ab8d5d8da32a611
https://forum.biblepay.org/tools/podcstatus.php?cpid=a914eba952be5dfcf73d926b508fd5fa
https://forum.biblepay.org/tools/podcstatus.php?cpid=163f049997e8a2dee054d69a7720bf05

about 660 unique users for wcg: https://www.gridcoinstats.eu/project/world%20community%20grid
about 730 unique users for rosetta: https://www.gridcoinstats.eu/project/rosetta@home

even taking the floor, that's 660 unique users that are negatively impacted by this change.

biblepay currently pays better than gridcoin for the same amount of rac.

so, this would be a 50+ hit if biblepay was removed from the equation.

how many others are you going to impact negatively?
how many non BiblePay team members have registered CPIDs on the blockchain?
how many staked wallets will just sell their BBP if BiblePay team is required again?

There's been no analysis on the impact and risk of requiring Team BiblePay again.

IMO, more people will be hurt reverting back the BiblePay team requirement. exec podcupdate exploit was unforeseen, but it is allowed by the code written by the BiblePay devs. yes, the exploit by BM9hu373mUL4o9NiPB5j48jtD8oZomiUDU is unfair and goes against the spirit of staking BBP. Technically though it is allowed by the code.

At least perform a impact and risk analysis and weigh the pros & cons. Mandatory is not that far away. This change is very short term. Better to plug the PoDC hole and include it as part of the mandatory. PoG is going to replace PoDC, so leave the team requirement alone. You've already stated you don't want PoDC and PoG is the future. this change will just generate a lot of badwill, especially with grcpool members. Is it really worth the reputation hit just to stop one cheater? BiblePay really can't afford to lose reputation in a bear market.

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Theology Corner / Acts 20 Bible Study Questions

« on: January 20, 2019, 01:52:34 AM »

Acts 20 Bible Study Questions
18 Is it practical to be fully committed to the people in the church? What is probably different about Paul’s attitude from our own?
[/size]22-24, 28, 32, 36-38: How do these verses reveal Paul's love for the Ephesian believers and his trust in God? Are the activities of our life supporting our ministry or is our ministry just another one of life’s activities? Do we view what Christ has entrusted us as something we take out only a few times a week or do we see it as our full-time life? Are we living the Gospel to the degree that we can safely admonish others to their benefit? Or are we trying to turn attention away from our own weaknesses?Definitions: Pentecost - a Christian feast on the seventh Sunday after Easter commemorating the descent of the Holy Spirit on the apostlesadmonish - to say (something) as advice or a warningcovet - to desire (what belongs to another) inordinately or culpably

[/size]Apostle Paul's Third Missionary Journey MapThe worship of Diana is so well-known and universally accepted that, according to the clerk, there was no danger of it being destroyed by the evangelist and what he taught. The clerk CHIDES the crowd for their unreasonable fears and warns them there are consequences if they continue being disorderly! The riot soon disperses. Paul leaves the city and journeys to Macedonia. During his three month stay in the region he visits Corinth (Acts 20:1 - 3) and writes his letter to the Romans.58 A.D.The apostle Paul and company travel back through Macedonia to Troas, where they keep the Feast of Unleavened Bread (Acts 20:6). On his last day at Troas he preaches and teaches until late in the night. Listening to him is a young man sitting in a window. The man soon goes into a deep sleep and dies when he falls from the window to the street below. The evangelist immediately goes to the young man, embraces him, and he comes back to life! (Acts 20:7 - 11).After the Feast Luke and a few others sail from Philippi and meet Paul in Troas. Although Luke and several others decide to sail from Troas to Assos[/url], Paul chooses to walk to the city (Acts 20:13 - 14). In Assos the entire group takes a ship to Mitylene (Acts 20:14). From Mitylene they sail past the islands of Chios and Samos, dock for a night at Trogyllium, then eventually arrive at Miletus (Acts 20:15).

[/size]MiletusMiletus is a seaport town and ancient capital of Ionia.  The city is located about 36 miles (58 kilometers) south of Ephesus.Before 500 B.C. Miletus was considered the greatest and wealthiest of Greek cities.   It was important in the founding of the Greek colony of Naukratis in Egypt and founded more than 60 colonies on the shores of the Black Sea.  [/c][/t]From Miletus the apostle requests that the elders in the Ephesian church visit him. When they arrive he warns them about the coming apostasy in the church (Acts 20:26-31).Source: [/color]http://www.walkwiththeword.org/Studies/02_NT/44_Acts/44_Acts_20.17-38.html[/size][/url] [/color]http://www.biblestudy.org/maps/apostle-paul-third-missionary-journey-map.html[/size][/url]

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving

« on: January 20, 2019, 12:59:43 AM »

I've tested it in many way and many times, but I'm sill not able to reach better times. I really don't know why. Sorry. I'm not able to test it on different PC right now.
I agree with Sunk.

Even if you can't test on a different PC, I'm thankful you tested what you have. It important to acknowledge that what your experienced is true and not dismiss it as a one-off. I can vouch for some delay in receiving results, but I haven't dug deeper (and can't due to time constraints) to determine where the "lag" is. Without better diagnostic tools, it is hard to know. If you're motivated a free tool called Sysinternals Process Monitor, that will give you a lot more detailed logging to see if there is any system contention with another process (antivirus), disk IO, network delay, etc. And Windows even comes with a tool called Resmon (Resource Monitor) but it won't log time like Process Monitor (PM). PM can log every file, registry, and network request made by BiblePay.

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Archived Proposals / Re: Dec 2018 TestNet & Tech Support

« on: January 19, 2019, 01:39:16 PM »

If the message came as DM, then it is a DM.  I don't charge for my time spent on direct messages. I will usually redirect them to public resources for others to benefit. You can see my participation (discord, reddit, twitter) just search on my name and public chat/messaging history. Its not worth my accounting time to give you a list or breakdown. I fiat terms this is $23 worth of work. This was more a token proposal to have acknowledged and receive a small compensation for  the work I do for BiblePay.

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Archived Proposals / Re: Jan-Feb-Mar 2019 TestNet & Tech Support

« on: January 19, 2019, 01:30:23 PM »

I would request the same amount if I excluded TestNet hours. The rate is already heavily discounted. Who works for $1/day?

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving

« on: January 18, 2019, 10:34:50 PM »

So I take it from the lack of response - that everyones business object list is loading fast?

Testnet (1182)
Orphans is fast but there is only 1 listing.
Contacts take 3-4 seconds.

Is the explanation that orbis and I do not have IPFS nodes? If you have local IPFS nodes, that could be the differential reason for latency.

Expense in prod (1159) takes 4-5 seconds to load.

~~~

Can anyone think of anything we are missing in relationship to last minute features or double checks before we go live?

Are you going to put a checkbox (on/off) and recurrence for PoG? That'd be more "user friendly" than editing the biblepay.conf

If you want user adoption, doesn't it make sense to activate this from the GUI instead of biblepay.conf ?

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving

« on: January 15, 2019, 10:06:42 PM »

So we put a special rule in testnet to allow you to tithe even without coin age.  Now you can send up to 10 bbp to the pool.
You can either do it from the rpc:  'tithe 10' Or, you can go to the Send Money page,  click POG Tithe, then populate the amount.

I tried to tithe 10 from gui with Tithe Ability Qty 0. Did not work. I was able to tithe 10 in debug console.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: Testnet - Test Proof of Giving

« on: January 15, 2019, 08:09:34 PM »

Is there an idiots guide to setting the "Testnet" up, showing what exactly one has to do. I have looked at a couple of links I have seen posted in here and they make no sense to me, or they do not tell me what I need to know. Meaning how do I set up my wallet config file and things like that, I am running the latest version of the wallet on windows .1.1.8.2.

My approach is a slightly different, since I have multiple test wallets. I download the biblepaycore.exe and use 7zip to open. Then I extract the contents to a folder (e.g. bbptest1).

In Windows 10:
* right-click on biblepay-qt.exe and Pin to Start.
* Then right-click on the Pinned shortcut and select Open File Location
* right-click on the short cut and go to properties
* To the end of target add -testnet -datadir=. (e.g. biblepay-qt.exe -testnet -datadir=.)
* Go inside c:\bbptest1 and create a biblepay.conf there
* Launch the shortcut and it should run testnet every time

contents should look like this:

# addnode looks for peers as recorded by testnet.biblepay.org
# testnet=1 yes run testnet blockchain
# nickname your pog nickname
# tithe 1 is once a day (or every 4 hours in testnet)

addnode=testnet.biblepay.org
testnet=1
nickname=biblepayer
tithe=1

# if you want to mine testBBP you can add these lines to.
#
# gen 1 , yes i want to mine
# genproclimit , how many threads i want to use
# minersleep miner sleeps 99.9% of the time and mines 0.1% of the time.

gen=1
genproclimit=1
minersleep=999