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  • jaapgvk
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Awesome guide btw Togo, thanks!

Yes, absolutely! Thanks Togo.


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Hi Mike,

Consider these two aspects also in that list:
1) The list is an average of gigaflops measured per machine per core, but no indication how long each machine runs per day.  So in this case, I could see the i5's beating the i7's if those particular owners run them 24-7.  (This is just a guess).  Feel free to research this more.

2) Although I have been fervently searching for people who run rosetta on a GPU and cannot find any evidence of GPU on rosetta, please feel free to search, It is possible Rosettas complex protein folding software libs may run better on machines with certain graphics coprocessor brands.
I searched for the top dog out of the 48,000 hosts, who accumulates More RAC in his class take a look at this guy:
https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/show_host_detail.php?hostid=2301665

Look at the Coprocessors Row:
Coprocessors   NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti (2048MB) driver: 388.13 OpenCL: 1.2

It could very well be that those machines with Nvidia GeForce video cards crunch 4-5* faster than those without, even though the software is not specifically using a GPU.  This is a new world of expirimentation and learning.

Rob, do you know if the Measured floating point speed on the stat page is for 1 processor or for 32 as he has? According to the cpu list that CPU should be getting 3 GFLOPS per core and that processor has 8 cores. If that score is per core then he is right on target.

Now if I click on applications list, you can see every instance is about 3 GFLOPS. I'm wondering if he has 1 instance on each core because that would be right.

On cpubenchmark.net:
Dual E5-2630 v2 - 16,123
Dual Xeon X5660 - 11,719

Both of these have 6 cores but the score on the cpu list for a 6 core E5-2630 v2 is 338 GFLOPS and a 12 core X5660 is 175 GFLOPS. That makes the E5-2630 v2 4 times faster then the X5660 which doesn't make any sense. I think the number of cores for the E5-2630 v2 is listed wrong, should be 12. Is there someone you can ask about that? Thanks.
« Last Edit: February 09, 2018, 11:36:44 AM by T-Mike »


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I have about the same magnitude (360).  So since you have magnitude, you should have received about 31% of the rewards in the last superblock.
Did you have a 330,000 reward in last superblock?

How do I check the superblock?

I had 1 million tBBP starting out, and now I have  about 7.85 million tBBP, I have only mined a few minutes, so I assume the rest is from Research

./biblepay-cli getgovernanceinfo
{
  "governanceminquorum": 1,
  "masternodewatchdogmaxseconds": 57600,
  "proposalfee": 5.00000000,
  "superblockcycle": 1435,
  "lastsuperblock": 4305,
  "nextsuperblock": 5740
}

https://testnet.biblepay-explorer.org/block/4305
https://testnet.biblepay-explorer.org/tx/18611b21c5c0b024cf168a6cc4b79563d9aacb02c916498f9117ef414b3d21d4

Oh wait we have daily superblocks right?

My testnet sanctuary (masternode) address is: yh4nfiwoS94uqR7yMibib6UDe7kqxXRyCe

My masternode in masternode list: "da2c3baaec7206bc1ea01df1f230e4c4dfa77a5a37ce3a9bf3a078078664c772-1"

Im looking through blocks, mostly see 599BBP payouts: https://testnet.biblepay-explorer.org/blocks

I do see a 5,997 payout at block 5148 and 5136

./biblepay-cli listaddressgroupings

      "yNBPNx4EtgrMSpe6AbYkc5711Jd1bB1c6b",
      499996.99974740

      "yZ6E3AZkkiqNdv2LyzYYQDQtvHjqRw4Hpn",
      7199.34000000

      "yaSJC1njhL6aMgVcVSUFLVujegXDG73uYo",
      2055036.92236124,
      "MN1"
https://testnet.biblepay-explorer.org/address/yaSJC1njhL6aMgVcVSUFLVujegXDG73uYo

      "ydye9XwJiHvRVDqgxxsM3cxssfBWgLAVmK",
      7799.55000000

      "yentn3QieYbHpDTSVRctMTttEGoqAtyV7o",
      6599.70000000

      "ygg9E71X7gfB7ep258kuQNhYvwvGzb1vyq",
      5999.40000000

      "yjUmY8EmuSKf6EWJf4aajWovksV2TQbxWc",
      5285715.08000000,
https://testnet.biblepay-explorer.org/address/yjUmY8EmuSKf6EWJf4aajWovksV2TQbxWc

Removed all the 0 addresses


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How do I check the superblock?

I had 1 million tBBP starting out, and now I have  about 7.85 million tBBP, I have only mined a few minutes, so I assume the rest is from Research

./biblepay-cli getgovernanceinfo
{
  "governanceminquorum": 1,
  "masternodewatchdogmaxseconds": 57600,
  "proposalfee": 5.00000000,
  "superblockcycle": 1435,
  "lastsuperblock": 4305,
  "nextsuperblock": 5740
}

https://testnet.biblepay-explorer.org/block/4305
https://testnet.biblepay-explorer.org/tx/18611b21c5c0b024cf168a6cc4b79563d9aacb02c916498f9117ef414b3d21d4

Oh wait we have daily superblocks right?

My testnet sanctuary (masternode) address is: yh4nfiwoS94uqR7yMibib6UDe7kqxXRyCe

My masternode in masternode list: "da2c3baaec7206bc1ea01df1f230e4c4dfa77a5a37ce3a9bf3a078078664c772-1"

Im looking through blocks, mostly see 599BBP payouts: https://testnet.biblepay-explorer.org/blocks

I do see a 5,997 payout at block 5148 and 5136

Hi Togo,
Looks like you are running an old version, cause 1088q+ shows payments in 'exec getboincinfo.
The  5997 payment is the masternode payment.  The large # of 599 payments is pow-pobh-heat miner payments.

Your Large Payment of 300K or so per payment should be in your transaction list somewhere, going to the Wallet address associated with the cpid. You can see that address in 'exec getboincinfo. 


Hey Guys, now that I need to ensure everyone is on 1089 in prod (or less than 1088) so we can get prod voting working, I had to check in 1089 which is the "old" protocol version.  Now I cant connect in testnet.

Could everyone please Upgrade to 1089 , especially sancs?

We need to anyway as there is a rule change in 1089 requiring 2 Or More sanctuaries in Testnet to agree on the SanctauryQuorum vote.  (Before it was just 1 to get us started).


Thanks,
Rob

EDIT: Windows is almost ready... standby about 30 more mins for windows...





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Im trying to go back through and answer anything I missed:

1) Daily Superblocks and payment frequency:
In Prod its set for Daily, @202 blocks per day.  Remember we are going to adjust the DGW width in Prod to give us 7 min superblocks, so that should be daily in prod.
However in testnet, our blocks are 1 minute, so we really have about 6 superblocks per day in testnet. 

But we can still verify the exact accuracy, by looking at individual superblocks.  We should verify:  Are we hitting all of them, are the amounts correct and are the totals correct.

2) How to look at a superblock:  After exec getboincinfo, then you know the last superblock height.

Type 'showblock lastsuperblockheight'
Get the first coinbase txid from the showblock into clipboard
Type
getrawtransaction txid 1
Look at each payment

Ensure block is > 1 million payout, then you know its a superblock.



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Rob, do you know if the Measured floating point speed on the stat page is for 1 processor or for 32 as he has? According to the cpu list that CPU should be getting 3 GFLOPS per core and that processor has 8 cores. If that score is per core then he is right on target.

Now if I click on applications list, you can see every instance is about 3 GFLOPS. I'm wondering if he has 1 instance on each core because that would be right.

On cpubenchmark.net:
Dual E5-2630 v2 - 16,123
Dual Xeon X5660 - 11,719

Both of these have 6 cores but the score on the cpu list for a 6 core E5-2630 v2 is 338 GFLOPS and a 12 core X5660 is 175 GFLOPS. That makes the E5-2630 v2 4 times faster then the X5660 which doesn't make any sense. I think the number of cores for the E5-2630 v2 is listed wrong, should be 12. Is there someone you can ask about that? Thanks.

Hi Mike, Ill probably be able to put some time and effort into building a faster personal rosetta miner over here in a couple months but for now its probably best to post this in the Rosetta forum.  Now that you have a Rosetta-boinc account you can post it there.  Im trying to push out the workload a little to everyone now so we can grow to be a professional org.   The people from boinc wont reply to this as they have gone into retirement, but the community is large and thriving.



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Scholarly Assumptions regarding Cancer-Mining:

1- With the CPID-heat-mining rule, the botnet is busted, as you must have a CPID with RAC to heat mine in the future.
2- An unbanked person in a 3rd world country can potentially mine on an ARM-tablet or ARM-cellphone, and earn enough to buy a loaf of bread, without owning a home PC, each week.
3- With PODC enabled and POL disabled and CPID-heat-mining (with POBH of course) enabled, the rich do not get richer, but instead wealth is
 transferred to cancer researchers.

I think the unnoticed effect here, #2, is tightly aligned with our humanitarian mission for the unbanked.

It is even possible, if our value rises, with currencies that are worth 10* less that the unbanked may make more money from BBP cancer mining than they do in hard labor.  Dont some countries pay $.50 cents an hour for minimum wage?  Thats $28 a week.  I argue that it is *possible* to feed a whole family if cancer mining pays $100 a month. 



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I see someone just upgraded to 1089 (I have one 1089 peer), can I ask a favor, could you please type :
showblock 5228
And paste what is in 'blockmessage'?
Im trying to implement the botnet busting rule in testnet.


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./biblepay-cli getinfo
{
  "version": 1000809,


./biblepay-cli showblock 5228
{
  "hash": "abe2b88fcf2505896d298cc87e1e5973521232f5d6af1ee097ec1173bfd073bb",
  "confirmations": 8,
  "size": 1615,
  "version": 536870912,
  "merkleroot": "a65f1111d885d724417a228d043d0c83e85b42aef315b869f59805a46f8a321a",
  "tx": [
    "04a0fd4c6794e68eba2f16dc8d731c65fe228b3eea288457f7606a19c70333c9",
    "9dbcb31961ab09fc341818942d2a0144c811bbb5fe5f582f6c34b2c06c5ee33e"
  ],
  "time": 1518202881,
  "height": 5228,
  "mediantime": 1518198342,
  "difficulty": 0.02803181858428088,
  "chainwork": "00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000073b95df414",
  "hrtime": "02-09-2018 19:01:21",
  "nonce": 5494,
  "bits": "1d23ac57",
  "subsidy": 599,
  "blockversion": "1.0.8.9",
  "masternodereward": 1399860000000,
  "previousblockhash": "e3b542c31394ccf6c7d16cd0f7cdcc7959dcac6099ffc3a2f017962770f5decf",
  "blockmessage": "",
  "satisfiesbiblehash": "true",
  "biblehash": "00000007e43283f41962ffde2f5fb75a1b96df8775009548dda93c62c7183d74",
  "prayers": "",
  "nextblockhash": "60a47dbedcc91a80c6a5c0a5b81febf119aabae6f27e180f29a27c3616334391"
}

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I wasnt sure with protocol downgrade if I need to start the masternode again, so I started again anyways, its in PRE_ENABLED state now

Whoops I still need to run it as GUI, its non-GUI still, will report back
« Last Edit: February 09, 2018, 01:28:59 PM by togoshigekata »


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Thats awesome you got it working.  So what was the actual root of the problem why couldnt it sign your cpid?

Hi, it still dont work for me. I've tried Togo's "force" command and it still gave me this message: 
"Results": "Unable to sign CPID 04fba56d89a5eb38b1b82f8a6240132c"
If I run it on BOINC sw it goes well, but inside BBP it didn't work...
« Last Edit: February 09, 2018, 02:11:06 PM by orbis »


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Hi, it still dont work for me. I've tried Togo's "force" command and it still gave me this message: 
"Results": "Unable to sign CPID 04fba56d89a5eb38b1b82f8a6240132c"
If I run it on BOINC sw it goes well, but inside BBP it didn't work...
The force command is only if you are moving your wallet.

So this particular error occurs if you have an ecrypted locked wallet.
Could you please ensure you have more than 5 bbp available, wallet is unencrypted and unlocked, and that you have receiveing addresses available?
Then once you have one type:
sendtoaddress bbp_address 1

Let me know if that goes through properly?

Have you done anything strange to the wallet?
What version you running, headless or qt, and what OS?

One more question, what happens when you type:
signmessage bbp_address CPID1
(only replace bbp_address with your bbp_address)?

« Last Edit: February 09, 2018, 02:36:41 PM by Rob A. »


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my win wallet 189 still crashin when syncing


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my win wallet 189 still crashin when syncing
Without a debug log, no chance of looking at the problem.

I have 25 instances running and havent crashed.



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The force command is only if you are moving your wallet.

So this particular error occurs if you have an ecrypted locked wallet.
Could you please ensure you have more than 5 bbp available, wallet is unencrypted and unlocked, and that you have receiveing addresses available?
Then once you have one type:
sendtoaddress bbp_address 1

Let me know if that goes through properly?

Have you done anything strange to the wallet?
What version you running, headless or qt, and what OS?

One more question, what happens when you type:
signmessage bbp_address CPID1
(only replace bbp_address with your bbp_address)?

Thanks Rob.
I've unlocked wallet and create receive address. I have more than 50000 tBBP mined, but I didn't create any receive address before.
Now it is working and I'm on chain ;)


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Updated both my testnet wallets to 1.0.8.9

showblock 5228:
Code: [Select]
"blockmessage": "",
  "satisfiesbiblehash": "true",
  "biblehash": "0000000af3d9ac2d23b4eef3f5b0fd9303e6ca61b432fe2a15e5dbf50ce72bc7",
  "prayers": "",
  "nextblockhash": "449ff8cb60b4ce68691add717ebdd8980e3ea22716db8bd761bc523b1d1e9a87"
}