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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 09, 2018, 10:02:30 AM »

Ok so sanctuaries need to run as GUI (QT),
With Windows I just use Remote Desktop,
For Linux I will have to google solution, and hopefully 1GB RAM Vultr server will support GUI?

Quick search, I am seeing many solutions: xRDP, VNC, X11, Blackbox, Ubuntu Desktop, Any recommended?

Yeah, believe me I will go out of my way to try to get this magfilter working on headless, but the issue is not small, so for now this is still the best course, is to ask half of our prod sanctuaries to run in ./biblapy-qt mode if-when this system is deployed to prod.

Im still using vultr for my sancs, so what I did is installed graphics on the machine (using Mike-Ts similar info post), then I just VNC in using the inbuilt vnc viewer (they have a link to VNC viewer on each server in the web list).

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 09, 2018, 09:58:19 AM »

Rob, that's my other account. I will create a new CPID whenever I have a new machine up and running so we can have more CPIDs in the system. The one that I posted for BOINC info is https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/show_user.php?userid=1981209, which in the getboincinfo actually does give me a RAC value.

Oh good, OK, so your rosetta account ending in 1981209, it has a CPID that is in 'list dccs', has RAC in the rosetta web URL but so far 0 magnitude in Biblepay?  Yeah, that sounds like the normal 24 hour lag issue, where Rosetta has not dumped the unix file yet (that we vote on), so to find out for sure, just go to your SAN directory and do 'cat filtered', and see if your CPID is in that list.  If its missing, this is just the 24 hour rosetta lag.

We can succintify, or sanctify all this later by A) Adding another Info variable to getboincinfo, and B) Asking Togo to summarize this in a sentence such as "Please wait 24 hours to see yesterdays boinc RAC and magnitude in Biblepay" but of course we want to make sure things are working perfectly first.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 09, 2018, 09:09:54 AM »

14:53:58

exec getboincinfo


14:53:58

{
  "Command": "getboincinfo",
  "CPID": "e94c1704c75f731f8bfde303f08408ee",
  "Address": "yiqLtGKtrDykVqrFREoZ8B5mhRE66s4cw8",
  "CPIDS": "e94c1704c75f731f8bfde303f08408ee;",
  "NextSuperblockHeight": 5148,
  "e94c1704c75f731f8bfde303f08408ee_RAC": 170.18,
  "LastSuperblockHeight": 5049,
  "Payments": 0,
  "Budget": 1386000,
  "Magnitude": 0
}

I'm at 170.18 in the BOINC app.

Hi Mike,

Is this you T Compustick?

https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/show_user.php?userid=1981544

So right now it shows 0 RAC in the Rosetta project for you .
This is normal, because your local client gets more feedback from the work - queue machine immediately to appease the local user.
However, the back-end of boinc works off of backlogged distributed info.  We also "latch" on to that info to create our daily magnitude file to make this more resilient. That explains why we still have 0 RAC and hence 0 Mag in the local Biblepay client for you.

I wanted to mention, there is a way to cattle prod more RAC quicker, but it only works sometimes (as boinc network throttles requests to like one per hour), so you can try: click on the UPDATE button in Boinc after highlighting rosetta, then after its done go back to the URL i pasted above and see if any RAC appears in your account.


If that works let me know and I can tell you how Biblepay reacts to that situation.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 09, 2018, 08:48:18 AM »

my 4 rewards is 599
magnitude=0
i set 25% for BOINC

hmmm.... so 75% will be mining for BBP and 25% for 3D protein WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY, right?

David Baker started it (at Univ of Washington) now its this project as a whole:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta@home

You have to wait til your Rosetta "RAC" (average-work done in boinc) is > 1, let us know when you have some Boinc RAC

Basically, the daily budget for Rosetta rewards is about 1.2 Million.  Thats what we pay the heat miners now.
The heat miners drop to 10% of that, Rosetta gets the rest in this scenario.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 09, 2018, 08:32:03 AM »

that BOINC sw is need open in tray? cos that SW loading my CPU 100% and my mining is stoped, i have to shut down it?

Boinc has a plethora of options to control if it behaves by minimizing in the tray or as a service, and many CPU throttling functions.

You have to go to preferences.  For example I have my dev machine set to use 50% of the processing power only if the computer is Not busy.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 09, 2018, 08:29:49 AM »

Latest testvote:

14:07:35

exec testvote

Code: [Select]

{
  "Command": "testvote",
  "fileage": 2234,
  "filehash": "00000000000000000000000000000000b612b685f313b46becb5447a7904e81e",
  "contract": "yjQfaAE1yqYULCJMS6FmX98jBHtaY9sdMb,ca895b47aacffbdbf906201821af2f9f,249.18<ROW>yjQfaAE1yqYULCJMS6FmX98jBHtaY9sdMb,c9085154b7cc0ca2b5189672559dd6d8,119.38<ROW>yZ7Gqa8sikKsT8L211JRRqur1LEZXPZ1Nh,4004b7fec94751f61fe9135977bac553,207.84<ROW>yjUmY8EmuSKf6EWJf4aajWovksV2TQbxWc,93138f032bdd027fa3246b48bb715a77,312.55<ROW>yMC3QWwddFKgQGbMdJnZ9zZRCStj87Apvh,8f273b30f8e0a298ed26e242762df701,111.05<ROW>\n",
  "pam_hash": "00000000000000000000000000000000a7eda64161e7a14caec32800e29c0df9",
  "govobjhash": "44ef150a01e62829383c017a540121a84b52312a70e2a8266b1e2f2354d2fbaa",
  "Addresses": "yjQfaAE1yqYULCJMS6FmX98jBHtaY9sdMb|yjQfaAE1yqYULCJMS6FmX98jBHtaY9sdMb|yZ7Gqa8sikKsT8L211JRRqur1LEZXPZ1Nh|yjUmY8EmuSKf6EWJf4aajWovksV2TQbxWc|yMC3QWwddFKgQGbMdJnZ9zZRCStj87Apvh",
  "Amounts": "345363.23|165460.56|288066.03|433193.99|153915.19",
  "pam_hash2": "00000000000000000000000000000000a7eda64161e7a14caec32800e29c0df9",
  "votes_for_my_contract": 2,
  "contract1": "yjQfaAE1yqYULCJMS6FmX98jBHtaY9sdMb,ca895b47aacffbdbf906201821af2f9f,249.18<ROW>yjQfaAE1yqYULCJMS6FmX98jBHtaY9sdMb,c9085154b7cc0ca2b5189672559dd6d8,119.38<ROW>yZ7Gqa8sikKsT8L211JRRqur1LEZXPZ1Nh,4004b7fec94751f61fe9135977bac553,207.84<ROW>yjUmY8EmuSKf6EWJf4aajWovksV2TQbxWc,93138f032bdd027fa3246b48bb715a77,312.55<ROW>yMC3QWwddFKgQGbMdJnZ9zZRCStj87Apvh,8f273b30f8e0a298ed26e242762df701,111.05<ROW>\n",
  "RequiredVotes": 1,
  "last_superblock": 5049,
  "next_superblock": 5148,
  "next_superblock_triggered": true,
  "vote1": true,
  "vote1error": "",
  "serial": "",
  "verified_sigs": 0
}


Ok, yes, the b612 looks good, looks like we are the only ones voting on it ( My hot sanc + Mikes hot sanc).


Guys - we need to ask the hot sancs to run in ./biblepay-qt mode so we can expand our SanctuaryQuorum.

Id like to see more like 6-7 votes on the daily file, so we can prove some of the ground rules, like Am I in the 10% of the Quorum, and also, so I can increase the minimum testnet quorum level for a better test in the next release.

So anyone running the hot sanc in headless mode, can you please switch over to running in ./biblepay-qt (GUI) mode?

This is because the hot sanc must execute QT functions to process the Rosetta credits files.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 09, 2018, 08:25:15 AM »

Thats awesome you got it working.  So what was the actual root of the problem why couldnt it sign your cpid?

Orbis, looking at the code, it looks like that happens when you either have your wallet encrypted and locked, Or if you modified the code to hide your boinc private key somehow (the one it signs with).... LOL, doesnt seem like this can happen to a "normal" user.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 09, 2018, 08:22:42 AM »

It appears the magnitude is still not updating.

Good morning, just getting checked in here.

Could you please check all your mags, could you please paste the 'exec getboincinfo?' The other cosmetic mags in the client pull off of that last value.
The other thing I wonder, on your rosetta cpid, what is your rac up too?

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 09, 2018, 08:21:11 AM »

thanks: received 700k

i wanna try BOINC system mining:

are you have problem with masternode setuping?

You can just boinc mine if you want, adding a sanc is optional.  Im running a hot sanc.  They are extremely easy to set up.  Just follow togos hot sanctuary instructions.

The main thing we need to test is how people like Rosetta mining, and checking the rewards and seeing the magnitude.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 09, 2018, 08:20:11 AM »

Hi,
i need some help from you.
I've tried to set up testnet and roseta@home, but I wasn't success.
I have WIN QT 1.0.8.8.q wallet. First there was problem that I hadn't login for roseta, so I've downloaded Boinc manager and create acc within the app. I saw a Biblepay group on roseta@home, so I think that it is good, but...
When i try to login to distributed computing within wallet it give me error mesage:

I gave there mail and password from BOINC and then click on "Add me as Distributed Computer Researcher".
Is it possible to put login info into biblepay.conf?
I saw Togo's manual right now, so it seems, that I've made it correctly.
Thanks a lot.

Thats awesome you got it working.  So what was the actual root of the problem why couldnt it sign your cpid?

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 08, 2018, 06:53:13 PM »

Okay, I think I got my first testnet rig up and running. Everything went smooth and easy. Great work Rob!

Code: [Select]

01:19:19

{
  "Command": "getboincinfo",
  "CPID": "d9b22fccfae5582d4ee7838883aaa3cf",
  "Address": "yZxWkM7dpwbuuiUPUhysRENzGVCUM5S4DT",
  "CPIDS": "d9b22fccfae5582d4ee7838883aaa3cf;",
  "NextSuperblockHeight": 4554,
  "d9b22fccfae5582d4ee7838883aaa3cf_RAC": 0,
  "LastSuperblockHeight": 4455,
  "Payments": 0,
  "Budget": 1386000,
  "Magnitude": 0
}

Will start a sanctuary testnet rig in the beginning of next week.

Sorry if I missed this, but the controller wallet needs to be up and running at all times, right?

Also, I've been following the discussion between you (Rob) and Swongel on bitcointalk. He is - also - a knowledgeable guy in my opinion, but I understand why you call it FUD. I liked that you posted the 'FUD rules' post, with an example of an unbiased statement, because that explained to me why you called Swongels posts FUD, where at first I didn't see it.

I'm not knowledgeable enough on the subject to have any worthwhile input, but I'm studying everything so I can make an as much informed decision as possible.

Thanks.  Well the issue is it affects the ability to invest appropriately.  Im definitely not here to misrepresent Biblepay, but when I argue points I am careful to be honest and neutral.  Swongel is smart, but he is approaching this entirely from an atomic perspective, but I argue there are many ways to make third party distributed computing systems more trustable, like for example if biblepay had 5 reference machines running rosetta, maybe we pay a reward to audit the reference machines (sort of like testing the scales), etc.  We can put a code in random work units and audit them.  Etc.  The upside to the endeavor is huge, the current quality of the status quo is low.  What are we putting trust in now on the mining side?  That the coins are dissapearing?



EDIT:  Im glad you are up and running!  Great!

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 08, 2018, 05:31:14 PM »

Magnitude is 0 right now. I have been running Rosetta but I think you mentioned it only updates once a day. My RAC is 93.76 at the moment.

Yeah, not sure when their distributed linux servers dump the new file, but about an hour after that our Sancs will pick up the changes and start voting it in.  At that point your in-client magnitude will rise above 0.

In getboincinfo, and in the Distributed Computing tab UI.  Its also on the front page now.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 08, 2018, 03:58:28 PM »

21:19:05

exec testvote


21:19:05

{
  "Command": "testvote",
  "fileage": 1574,
  "filehash": "00000000000000000000000000000000b612b685f313b46becb5447a7904e81e",
  "contract": "yjQfaAE1yqYULCJMS6FmX98jBHtaY9sdMb,ca895b47aacffbdbf906201821af2f9f,249.18<ROW>yjQfaAE1yqYULCJMS6FmX98jBHtaY9sdMb,c9085154b7cc0ca2b5189672559dd6d8,119.38<ROW>yZ7Gqa8sikKsT8L211JRRqur1LEZXPZ1Nh,4004b7fec94751f61fe9135977bac553,207.84<ROW>yjUmY8EmuSKf6EWJf4aajWovksV2TQbxWc,93138f032bdd027fa3246b48bb715a77,312.55<ROW>yMC3QWwddFKgQGbMdJnZ9zZRCStj87Apvh,8f273b30f8e0a298ed26e242762df701,111.05<ROW>\n",
  "pam_hash": "00000000000000000000000000000000a7eda64161e7a14caec32800e29c0df9",
  "govobjhash": "b7122d5d7aea5b0b872a78ced81be1186a135639dd5d62d51579ba70363de404",
  "Addresses": "yjQfaAE1yqYULCJMS6FmX98jBHtaY9sdMb|yjQfaAE1yqYULCJMS6FmX98jBHtaY9sdMb|yZ7Gqa8sikKsT8L211JRRqur1LEZXPZ1Nh|yjUmY8EmuSKf6EWJf4aajWovksV2TQbxWc|yMC3QWwddFKgQGbMdJnZ9zZRCStj87Apvh",
  "Amounts": "345363.23|165460.56|288066.03|433193.99|153915.19",
  "pam_hash2": "00000000000000000000000000000000a7eda64161e7a14caec32800e29c0df9",
  "votes_for_my_contract": 3,
  "contract1": "yjQfaAE1yqYULCJMS6FmX98jBHtaY9sdMb,ca895b47aacffbdbf906201821af2f9f,249.18<ROW>yjQfaAE1yqYULCJMS6FmX98jBHtaY9sdMb,c9085154b7cc0ca2b5189672559dd6d8,119.38<ROW>yZ7Gqa8sikKsT8L211JRRqur1LEZXPZ1Nh,4004b7fec94751f61fe9135977bac553,207.84<ROW>yjUmY8EmuSKf6EWJf4aajWovksV2TQbxWc,93138f032bdd027fa3246b48bb715a77,312.55<ROW>yMC3QWwddFKgQGbMdJnZ9zZRCStj87Apvh,8f273b30f8e0a298ed26e242762df701,111.05<ROW>\n",
  "RequiredVotes": 1,
  "last_superblock": 4356,
  "next_superblock": 4455,
  "next_superblock_triggered": true,
  "vote1": true,
  "vote1error": "",
  "serial": "",
  "verified_sigs": 0
}

Sweet, working perfectly.

You have the same filehash as me (b612).
I see 3 of our sancs have voted for this file for the next superblock (block 4455).

Now just wait until 4456, then type exec getboincinfo, and see if your payment was in 4455, as long as you have magnitude >0.
What is your magnitude?

I have to jump outside while its light, be back in a couple hours.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 08, 2018, 03:15:38 PM »

Ok both commands work and I confirmed my CPID is only in the list once.

And by the way there are now 3 files in the SAN folder.

I'm trying to help train Togo as we go LOL, he might write some of this up.

exec testvote

Lets see file hash stuff

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 08, 2018, 02:42:54 PM »

That's probably it. I have exactly 500k in the new account. It still says my new mastermode is pre_enabled but I'm getting a lot of rewards right now.

Yeah, 500k is auto-locked for hot sanc.  Whats your address, Ill send?