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The coins that you legitimately bought from exchanges or mined in the past, those are always safe.

When a user decides not to upgrade, you will go on your own personal fork (along with the other sancs who have not upgraded), and will have your own invalid version of the blockchain.

Well, both statements cannot be true.

Do you expect all people who bought coins and downloaded them into their wallets to be watching this forum every month to see if you have posted a mandatory upgrade?

That's not the way the world works, if other coins are any example.

Most people leave their wallets unattended without checking in the coin's forums very often.   Most mandatory updates happen maybe twice a year.  And that would be rare to be that many.  I've watched and staked over 20 coins in the last 9 years.


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If we don't keep installing these mandatory updates for a while, what will happen to our balances?

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You didn't post the current mandatory wallet upgrade of 2/8/25 to this thread.

https://github.com/biblepay/biblepay/releases/tag/v022.9-Mandatory

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Hi CB, good to see you tonight and God bless you.
Thats cool you used to have a software company.  What software did you sell?  Good luck too.

Hi Rob,

I meant to answer this question but have been elsewhere.

I created ParaMind Brainstorming Software, the first generative brainstorming program in Windows.  We first started selling copies in 1993 and have sold them up until about three years ago.  There is a video "The Mother of All Prompts" which shows the ParaMind algorithm, which one can see from our examples page at our website.

It's been mentioned in various books, including one by Ray Kurzweil.


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I believe I can write the first in-wallet DOGE exchange inside the BBP wallet.  Basically, what we will do is have the wallet generate a DOGE address when it boots (DOGE-TRADING), and allow users to deposit DOGE into the BBP chain.  We can create an atomic transaction that will execute only if the BBP from the Seller has sent the special TX on chain and the DOGE is verified in a block.  Otherwise the BBP will not get mined by a sanc (yes, I know we can enforce this because Ive been studying the code).  We can have an orderbook with limit buy/sells in the RPC, and let people place trades right in the wallet (limit orders).  When they match, they generate atomic transactions.  This will be completely decentralized.

If DOGE is not sent by the rogue wallet, the BBP atomic TX will not mine (meaning the Seller did not lose any funds).
If the DOGE is sent by a good wallet and the Rogue bbp user does not send the bbp atomic TX, it will not be in the memory pool with an IS lock, therefore the DOGE will not actually be sent by the other wallet.
This can all be automated too with the matching process, so no work is actually done by the user.

The amazing thing about this is then we would be listed on every exchange in the world where DOGE is listed, so liquidity would be unlimited.

However, before putting on rose colored glasses, we are still limited by the number of users using the core wallet and actually trading.
But it would be a good use case for BBP (first wallet to have built in exchange).

It would also be good to talk about on the BTCTalk DOGE thread for new DOGE users to come onboard.

Thoughts community?


I know from leading projects, that silence is often the worst type of response, so I will venture a few
thoughts.

I think with projects like this, it's best to see a long future.

A lot of tech and tech businesses has a very short lifespan.  I myself am rebooting a software company
that was strong in the 1990s and 2000s and which I still sold copies of until a few years ago. 

So, my thoughts are, why not have two versions of BiblePay?  A very easy to use version with simple
staking, and the version you have now?

Could they both ride the same blockchain?

It would be a first.

Some of the last thread is going over my head.  I am just too busy with life to really get my hands dirty
and start setting up SANCs, and so on.  But I like the idea you are setting up a linkage to Atomic DEX's.

I like the DOGE feature but the way it's explained brings in other tech and keyboards.   I guess you are saying what you send to the wallet in DOGE is also staking in the SANCs? 

"The amazing thing about this is then we would be listed on every exchange in the world where DOGE is listed, so liquidity would be unlimited."   Is this really the case for any coin right now??

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Thanks for the replies, Rob.

I just wanted to mention, Bololex is not allowing Doge deposits.  A bit hard to trade on there without funding the wallet with DOGE.  Also, other deposits and withdraws are disabled that I've noticed. 

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"Substitute the 4,500,001 with 450001 to create an altar."

Can it be any number, like 555,007?

Also, you said you imported the miner into this process.  Is this going to take more CPU/RAM than normal staking?

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I upgraded too.

Can someone help correct the info so I can set up a sanc and start staking?  The first step at least seems to have changed with the new wallet:

I asked Google: How to set up a sanctuary with BiblePay

I got:

Create Sanctuary
How to create a deterministic Sanctuary


Ground Rules: You must have a controller wallet (this is your home wallet that is used to manage one or more sanctuaries). The lines below marked with controller must be run by your home wallet. The Sanctuary wallet is your VPS that runs the actual Sanctuary Software.



Step 1:
From the Controller Wallet, launch Biblepay QT. Go to File | Receiving Addresses.

xx This step now seems wrong.  I don't see that under file.   So I just selected Receive to get a wallet address.

Create a new address for your sanctuary (by clicking new), then edit it and label it with a good name (for example, sanc1) Write this sanctuary name down in notepad. Copy that address to your clipboard. Close the dialog.
Step 2:
Now we will fund the sanctuary. Go to Send. Paste the Address of the Sanctuary (from the first step) in the To box. Populate amount 4,500,001. Send.

Am I required to have 4,500,001 as an amount or can I put in a lesser amount?

I guess the rest is correct, if not, please let me know.

Step 3:
Go to the Transaction List, and find the transaction that you sent. Double click on it. Copy the transaction ID to your clipboard. Now we need to find out the TXID ordinal. Launch Notepad, and paste the txid in notepad and label it Collateral TXID. Now go to Tools | Debug Console. Type:
getrawtransaction txid 1
The command will show the details of the transaction you just sent. Scan the output of this command for the leg of the transaction that has an amount of 4,500,001. Once you find that leg, copy the "n" value of it. Usually, this will be 0 or 1. Copy that "n" value to notepad and label it "txid-ordinal".

Step 4:
Now we need to add an entry to the Controller wallets masternode.conf file. In mainnet, this file is located at ~/.biblepay/masternode.conf. In TestNet, this is located at ~/.biblepay/testnet3/masternode.conf. Note that on windows, you need to replace ~/.biblepay with %appdata%\biblepay. Nano this file. We need to store a new entry in it like this:
sanctuary_name sanctuary_vms_ip:sanctuary_port mnp collateral_txid collateral_txid_ordinal
You should replace sanctuary_name with the name that you wrote in notepad. Replace vms_ip with the ip address of your sanctuary. Replace port with 40000 for mainnet, or 40001 for testnet. Leave mnp as is. Replace collateral_txid with the TXID in notepad. Replace txid_vout_ordinal with the TXID ordinal from notepad. Save the file. Exit nano.

Step 5:
Now we need to upgrade the sanctuary to deterministic from the Controller wallet. From the RPC console, type:
upgradesanc sanc_name
Note! If the response says: 'unable to find funds at address nnn', this simply means you need a little BBP to cover maintenance. In this case send 1000 bbp from your controller wallet to the address on the screen (copy it to clipboard) and send to it, then wait 3 blocks then try again.

If the command is successful, it will emit about 10 lines of technical details about your new sanctuary. You are primarily concerned with the BLS public and private keys. Copy the BLS public and private keys to notepad and label them the same names.

Step 6:
Now we are ready to spin up the actual VMS sanctuary. From the VMS Sanctuary, first install either biblepay-qt or biblepayd (the sanctuary will run from either one). Most people use biblepayd. cd ~/.biblepay From here, we need to enter the BLS_PRIVATE_KEY in the biblepay.conf file! nano ~/.biblepay/biblepay.conf (this is for mainnet). For Testnet: nano ~/.biblepay/biblepaytest.conf Insert the following line
masternodeblsprivkey=nnn
Replace nnn with your actual bls_private_key (from notepad). Save the file.

Step 7:
Now we can start the sanctuary. Start the sanctuary, wait for it to sync, then type:
masternode status
At this point if it says READY: you have a perfectly running sanctuary. Now all you need to do is monitor the POSE status from the controller, and ensure it stays at 0. If it goes up, you can always revive your sanctuary with 'exec revivesanc sancname'.

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Does anyone know Bob personally, and could reach out to him?

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Hi CB,

Ok, I think I understand your point.  Your point is that there is going to be low adoption if it requires extremely high technical details to set the wallet to earn rewards.
I think what has happened is over time as we kept changing, we had releases where it was easy at one point but that got replaced by something new, and it became hard again.  Every time we release a new wallet the features that made it easy have been removed again.  It is certainly possible to make an "Easy Altar" feature.

The summarized answer is:
- We do still have rewards for small, mid, and large wallets.  They are altars, sancs and temples.  (All pay the same %s, but are different size collaterals).
- It would be beneficial for us to make an Easy Altar feature.
- Our next wallet is due out within 30 days, and then we have a base that we can add the feature into.

If this sounds right let me know and when the next core wallet is released we can work together in testnet to making something that is easy to set up for a newbie?


Hi Rob,

Sorry, I didn't see this until now.

Thanks for acknowleding my post.

Yes, you understand what I'm saying.  It's up to you of course.  Its a type of design philosophy, UX as they say these days. 

User Experience (UX) is a big thing today in programming. 

I am upgrading to the wallet that was just released and will get it synced. 

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Hi Rob,

I was thinking about Biblepay today and thought I would share some experience I have being in the space since 2016.

Some coins I notiiced were coins by software guys for other software guys.  It was very hard to keep up with the wallet, things were explained as cryptically as possible, using a lot of private jargon and the coins ended up not having very big teams.

Other coins were created by software developers for the general public and those coins tended to do better.

I still have a BBP balance and booted up the wallet to sync, and just wanted to share that with you.

I don't mind not getting anything from running the wallet since staking has been taken away (this is a tangent to my point, maybe it's not taken away, maybe it's called something else, etc.).  But like probably most supporters, there are
a lot of things I can do for the Lord and his people.  I went to the Jesus march in downtown Seattle yesterday.  Only two people in my church went, etc. etc.

I want to support Biblepay, but if it's going to take a big learning curve to use, not sure how much I am going to want to use it as life is complicated enough. 




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It sounds like (maybe) that people who only want to invest $50 to $100 are not in the "staking/mining" option now?

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Can someone else please answer this for Christblood and explain how Sanc mining works?

In the mean time you can go back a few pages and look at Temple, Sanctuary, and Altar and simply create a few Altar's to earn rewards.

Hi Rob,
I read back several threads but clearly none of this is intended as a beginners guide to what these concepts even mean.
I'm not trying to be nor do I feel antagonistic, but it's very important to have some kind of introductory pages about what you guys are talking about, lol.



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I was unable to follow why the staking stopped about a year ago, and what is the current stake of distributing the block chain.

Is there staking now and was it used as in traditional POS wallets?

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So to summarize the problem:  You just have 25 wallet tx's locked in coin control and they just need unlocked.  Nothing complicated.
Just right click on the first 5 or so and click unlock, and whatever the balance is of those "selected" just send yourself (to your own address) that amount minus 1000.
Then repeat for the other 20.


Thanks.  I was able to get it to work.

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