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Re: BIBLEPAY - TESTNET THREAD - TESTING SANCTUARIES FOR GO LIVE AT CHRISTMAS
« Reply #585 on: December 20, 2017, 04:24:13 am »
Good Morning Community (its 08:30 am here )

I got a Problem with this happybeecloud-vps: randomly biblepay (v1.0.6.9) stopping. I dont know the reason. When i start it with

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cd /home/root/biblepay/src
./biblepayd -daemon

and some seconds later i check status with:

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./biblepay-cli getmininginfo
i only get an error: couldn't connect to server back.

But sometimes, everything works fine, and biblepay runs stable until it stopps random.
I was looking for a log to solve this but cant find something in /var/log or in biblepay directory.


An other thing: i want to testing such an 8-core vps from hyperexpert, but they dont sell any vps. Maybe they are in hollyday.

>> got a Problem with this happybeecloud-vps: randomly biblepay (v1.0.6.9) stopping. I dont know the reason. When i start it with

is that 1GB or 2GB RAM VPS you've got random daemon failures at ?
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Re: BIBLEPAY - TESTNET THREAD - TESTING SANCTUARIES FOR GO LIVE AT CHRISTMAS
« Reply #586 on: December 20, 2017, 04:31:10 am »
>> got a Problem with this happybeecloud-vps: randomly biblepay (v1.0.6.9) stopping. I dont know the reason. When i start it with

is that 1GB or 2GB RAM VPS you've got random daemon failures at ?

Its the 2 GB RAM Quadcore VPS.
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Re: BIBLEPAY - TESTNET THREAD - TESTING SANCTUARIES FOR GO LIVE AT CHRISTMAS
« Reply #587 on: December 20, 2017, 04:50:29 am »
Its the 2 GB RAM Quadcore VPS.

I had the same thing on a 1GB VPS and I just dropped it . 
You could create some kind of a cron job calling a shell script checking if daemon is running and restarting it .
I guess provider does not favor mining on it's premises.  that's it . 
they can control the processes on VPSes .


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Re: BIBLEPAY - TESTNET THREAD - TESTING SANCTUARIES FOR GO LIVE AT CHRISTMAS
« Reply #588 on: December 20, 2017, 05:27:16 am »
I had the same thing on a 1GB VPS and I just dropped it . 
You could create some kind of a cron job calling a shell script checking if daemon is running and restarting it .
I guess provider does not favor mining on it's premises.  that's it . 
they can control the processes on VPSes .

Same with you , I cancelled it as I tried many times to test,  look like the provider had a detector tool for monitor their vps ....


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Re: BIBLEPAY - TESTNET THREAD - TESTING SANCTUARIES FOR GO LIVE AT CHRISTMAS
« Reply #589 on: December 20, 2017, 05:31:14 am »
Same with you , I cancelled it as I tried many times to test,  look like the provider had a detector tool for monitor their vps ....

Which Provider did you mean?
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Re: BIBLEPAY - TESTNET THREAD - TESTING SANCTUARIES FOR GO LIVE AT CHRISTMAS
« Reply #590 on: December 20, 2017, 05:54:31 am »
Which Provider did you mean?

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Re: BIBLEPAY - TESTNET THREAD - TESTING SANCTUARIES FOR GO LIVE AT CHRISTMAS
« Reply #591 on: December 20, 2017, 06:03:41 am »
HappyBee Host

Thank you for telling <3

Then i can stopp to trying solve this problem. And can start to find a "better" provider  ;D
Greetings from Germany <3


Re: BIBLEPAY - TESTNET THREAD - TESTING SANCTUARIES FOR GO LIVE AT CHRISTMAS
« Reply #592 on: December 20, 2017, 03:40:30 pm »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_large_numbers

Have to be careful extrapolating from a small data set, there is going to be randomness / fluctuations with smaller amount of data

I think Rob mentioned the algorithm has something to do with a hash number being near a masternode's number, Id have to look into it, sounds interesting

While I think the randomness is interesting, is there any reason why we didn't follow DASH's method of simply paying the node that had been running the longest without a win?  The reason I think our system is better is someone who had issues that interrupted their node multiple times through no fault of their own (or even if it was their fault) might never get a block if there were 1000 MN out there, whereas with our system they still have a chance.


Re: BIBLEPAY - TESTNET THREAD - TESTING SANCTUARIES FOR GO LIVE AT CHRISTMAS
« Reply #593 on: December 20, 2017, 03:41:47 pm »
Thank you for telling <3

Then i can stopp to trying solve this problem. And can start to find a "better" provider  ;D

Have had very few issues on Vultr.  Recommend their $5 VPS.


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Re: BIBLEPAY - TESTNET THREAD - TESTING SANCTUARIES FOR GO LIVE AT CHRISTMAS
« Reply #594 on: December 20, 2017, 03:46:50 pm »
I looked up Rob's notes on the winning algorithm

"As far as "luck" of winning the spot, we are using an algorithm where the nodes rank is determined by how close its vin is to the blockhash its voting on, so its really luck."

"The winner is based on the delta between the masternode vin and the blockhash, so that makes the winner random, thats why they can repeat back to back."

What is the masternode VIN?

This kind of reminds me of the Price is Right LOL but going both ways up and down
I think some VINs could have really unlucky spots being sandwhiched between other VINs, does that make sense?

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Re: BIBLEPAY - TESTNET THREAD - TESTING SANCTUARIES FOR GO LIVE AT CHRISTMAS
« Reply #595 on: December 20, 2017, 05:00:38 pm »
I looked up Rob's notes on the winning algorithm

"As far as "luck" of winning the spot, we are using an algorithm where the nodes rank is determined by how close its vin is to the blockhash its voting on, so its really luck."

"The winner is based on the delta between the masternode vin and the blockhash, so that makes the winner random, thats why they can repeat back to back."

What is the masternode VIN?

This kind of reminds me of the Price is Right LOL but going both ways up and down
I think some VINs could have really unlucky spots being sandwhiched between other VINs, does that make sense?



Yeah, I'd like to have more insight into the technicalities of this, and how random it really is. Although I must say that my payments seem to be spaced apart quite evenly, although less than expected.

Also, did any of you needed to restart your sanctuary after the last update (1.0.7.1)? I just updated my wallets and started my sanctuary and it just kept saying 'ONLINE'.


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Re: BIBLEPAY - TESTNET THREAD - TESTING SANCTUARIES FOR GO LIVE AT CHRISTMAS
« Reply #596 on: December 20, 2017, 05:21:26 pm »
I copied the masternode winners for block 21600 to 22032,

I then pasted it into excel and did Data >> Text to columns and split by Other colon ":"
then I deleted the extra columns (and I only used the first winner in the list)
then I used this excel command in 2nd column to get counts: =COUNTIF(A:A, A1)
then I copy pasted the counts by value to new column and deleted the previous count column
then I removed duplicates in 1st column

Code: [Select]
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The one thing I dont know, is I dont know how long each of these sanctuaries has been online, sanctuary that just started vs one that has been on the past 2 days, if we had that amount of time enabled data, then we could do the statistical analysis

For instance B8VyJEETEgaYirHeckJANQBd82AKfLkvfe is someone I just helped get setup on Slack a few hours ago and he got 1 payment so far
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Re: BIBLEPAY - TESTNET THREAD - TESTING SANCTUARIES FOR GO LIVE AT CHRISTMAS
« Reply #597 on: December 20, 2017, 07:51:45 pm »
I copied the masternode winners for block 21600 to 22032,

I then pasted it into excel and did Data >> Text to columns and split by Other colon ":"
then I deleted the extra columns (and I only used the first winner in the list)
then I used this excel command in 2nd column to get counts: =COUNTIF(A:A, A1)
then I copy pasted the counts by value to new column and deleted the previous count column
then I removed duplicates in 1st column

Code: [Select]
B4icq9xMoey9SUN14Zosu5eJyh53GpMuDE 4
 B547NvFM2TUeCKxEGcxCxpt8as42pyS4po 20
 B5Ac1kfZd47aogmrHKzQM1SR65f2HidfJJ 24
 B69kMjn6a8vRH5bmVEdahheKqCqHoJejoz 7
 B6dcexhthQYGEdQZMiMdLNaFyFAyJEYXYE 9
 B6W3399nVAFE9c9AmPBd7qeWLd1r9czz2u 8
 B75XgzyKekgRTJ5JzTgqsCqw482MeH2MW6 21
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 B8VyJEETEgaYirHeckJANQBd82AKfLkvfe 1
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 BSrFn8zpC48AykVANWcjVEve5tzn8NQNRE 7
 BSv2sd6jRutxDsFef7tznJjaNLrdvq3nfS 5


The one thing I dont know, is I dont know how long each of these sanctuaries has been online, sanctuary that just started vs one that has been on the past 2 days, if we had that amount of time enabled data, then we could do the statistical analysis

For instance B8VyJEETEgaYirHeckJANQBd82AKfLkvfe is someone I just helped get setup on Slack a few hours ago and he got 1 payment so far


wonders of excel analytics :)   
 I've been up from day 1 - 8 wins .
   few top  nodes :  24 - 20 .   
 to big  of a difference

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Re: BIBLEPAY - TESTNET THREAD - TESTING SANCTUARIES FOR GO LIVE AT CHRISTMAS
« Reply #598 on: December 20, 2017, 08:13:17 pm »
Yeah, I'd like to have more insight into the technicalities of this, and how random it really is. Although I must say that my payments seem to be spaced apart quite evenly, although less than expected.

Also, did any of you needed to restart your sanctuary after the last update (1.0.7.1)? I just updated my wallets and started my sanctuary and it just kept saying 'ONLINE'.


Jaapgvk , did you update both sanct MN and controller and it went "enabled"  right away ?


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Re: BIBLEPAY - TESTNET THREAD - TESTING SANCTUARIES FOR GO LIVE AT CHRISTMAS
« Reply #599 on: December 21, 2017, 12:48:17 am »

Jaapgvk , did you update both sanct MN and controller and it went "enabled"  right away ?

It just stayed enabled in the list. After updating both, I restarted (I did the controller first), and after starting the sanctuary wallet it said 'masternode successfully started' after syncing. Didn't have to do anything from the controller wallet.

I've received a payment since then, so I'm guessing all is fine :)
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