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  • T-Mike
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Block 9218 was not signed, time difference compared to previous block was >15min.


  • togoshigekata
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If anyone wants to edit the guide Ive written for PODC (Proof of Distributed Computing), please do!
http://wiki.biblepay.org/Distributed_Computing_2

I just wrote it so there'd be step by step instructions for noobs like me to start research mining (and helping test)

I believe anyone can create a wiki account :)

Id have to probably read through this whole thread a few times to understand it all,
I understand on the surface level most of what Rob says but there is definitely some deep knowledge here

Rob's guides have a lot of good content:

How to Get Started with Distributed-Computing:
http://wiki.biblepay.org/Distributed_Computing_Start_Guide

Distributed Computing:
http://wiki.biblepay.org/Distributed_Computing


  • znffal
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Please try deleting banlist.dat, (in \testnet3) and restart? Ill unban all nodes now also.

Thanks Rob, I am back up and running now!


  • T-Mike
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Did something happen? There was only one masternode in the list and I had to restart all of mine.


  • aikida3k
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I don't have time to chase down why my RAC and Magnitude are zero.  How long does it take for these to ramp up?  It took somewhere around a day for the VPS to show under the "Your Computers" page.  Anyway, thanks for any help or input.   

"Command": "getboincinfo",
  "CPID": "84d803e4d82d3bdcdf8e2ab601e93e20",
  "Address": "yeqg7xVzYKimDfk5r7FavzWum4XMcJ1AoZ",
  "CPIDS": "84d803e4d82d3bdcdf8e2ab601e93e20;",
  "CPID-Age (hours)": 421828,
  "NextSuperblockHeight": 9603,
  "84d803e4d82d3bdcdf8e2ab601e93e20_RAC": 0,
  "Total Payments (One Day)": 0,
  "Total Payments (One Week)": 0,
  "Total Budget (One Day)": 2730420,
  "Total Budget (One Week)": 52335360,
  "Superblock Count (One Week)": 70,
  "Superblock Hit Count (One Week)": 39,
  "Superblock List": "9108,8613,8217,8118,8019,7821,7425,7326,7128,7029,6831,6733168,3069,2772,2673",
  "Last Superblock Budget": 1386000,
  "Last Superblock Height": 9504,
  "Last Superblock Payment": -1,
  "Magnitude": 0


  • togoshigekata
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Anyone know how to maximize BOINC CPU in command line on Linux?

I just checked on my Linux machine with top command noticed only 7 boinc/rosetta threads running at 100% CPU,
when I was expecting to see 16 threads at 100% CPU (like I saw after first installing BOINC and linking Rosetta)

I found some config files in the /etc/boinc-client folder: cc_config.xml and global_prefs_override.xml

References:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Installing_BOINC_on_Ubuntu
https://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/BOINC_Data_directory
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Boinccmd_tool
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Client_configuration

This guide shows a giant config file:
https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-seti-home-on-ubuntu-14-04-or-debian-7
cpu_usage_limit option stands out

Ill poke around some more tomorrow

I installed lubuntu-core and was able to open the BOINC Manager GUI and set my Options >>> Computing Preferences

Is 4GB RAM enough for Rosetta@home?

Also other than those crazy $3k server processors it looks like the AMD Threadripper 1950X for $900 is the best CPU to use, not sure how it plays out budget wise when you also factor in a more expensive motherboard and liquid cooling though. Curious how the power usage/electricity costs play out as well.


  • togoshigekata
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TMike are your sanctuaries all in state: WATCHDOG_EXPIRED?

If needed I can spin up some more testnet sanctuaries but it seems like you got it covered :)


I installed lubuntu-core and was able to open the BOINC Manager GUI and set my Options >>> Computing Preferences

Is 4GB RAM enough for Rosetta@home?

Also other than those crazy $3k server processors it looks like the AMD Threadripper 1950X for $900 is the best CPU to use, not sure how it plays out budget wise when you also factor in a more expensive motherboard and liquid cooling though. Curious how the power usage/electricity costs play out as well.

I've been playing around with it but right now my T3500 with an X5650 is doing pretty decent although your I7-2600K looks like its a monster by comparison (which I wouldn't have guessed by comparing the two CPU on CPUBoss)


  • jaapgvk
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Am I on the right chain guys?

Code: [Select]
09:18:21

getblockhash 9205

09:18:22

6a89484d1a5f0cc703b299f32c1e46584d8aa39ace84bf0f6100c14b08f5ce7d

Also, how to I check the exact version number? 'getinfo'  only says:
Code: [Select]
  "wallet_fullversion": "1.0.9.0",

I'm using boinc on an Android phone now too. Great feature :)

Oh, and the Windows version isn't ready yet, right?


  • Rob A.
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Forgot to answer this post yesterday sorry,
Please see inline:

So.... in that case, I have a few other questions :D

2. what will happened with credits from rosetta earned in testnet when it goes live?
-> For these credits, or for existing Rosetta researchers who come as new users to BBP, we honor their RAC, their current 2 week average, so technically, you are compensated for work done over the last 2 week period when we go live in prod.

3. If it will be fresh start (everyone with 0 RAC and magnitude), block will be solved after that 31 minutes rule, but what will be with "rosetta's block" reward within first day or two?
-> The people with RAC will have quite an edge in prod against the new users with 0 rac, but remember, anyone from the outside with RAC can take a share right off the bat if they know the project is going live

4. How we will change our control wallet from testnet to prod? With "exec associate rosetta_email rosetta_pass force"?
-> Yes, that is necessary in prod since we have to send out a burn transaction, therefore your CPID goes into the Prod Chain

5. How it is magnitude exactly counted?
->  We harvest a list of DC CPID's in the chain as of the superblock, for each CPID: we sum the current RAC for Rosetta, we sum the Total Rosetta RAC for Biblepay, we divide the Researcher RAC by the Total RAC, yielding a %, this % multipled * 1000 = magnitude. 

6. I understand, that there are bilions of combinations needed to be counted, but what if rosetta fullfil their mission?
-> If Rosetta decides to go out of business, I think first we look at the rest of the boinc projects for something noble, like AIDS, Alzheimers, and we look to adapt the project to their project.

7. Will be PODC prod update mandatory to all?
-> Yes, looks like the community likes it (from the governance vote).



Thanks a lot for fullfiling my curiosity :D


  • Rob A.
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Did something happen? There was only one masternode in the list and I had to restart all of mine.
I think something happened, I must have been dreaming of something "failing" as its 230 AM here and I woke up and thought it was 6AM and started working, I see the hard disk is full in testnet, full of errors, and 2 of my vultr Prod nodes have "Emergency Failures" (this is on the vultr side, they said Non Recoverable), LOL, start of a great morning. 

I need to filter out the log to see whats going on.



  • Rob A.
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Block 9218 was not signed, time difference compared to previous block was >15min.

Good, that part seems to be working.
As far as How many consecutive can be solved by CPID, right now its set for 4 in prod and 1 in testnet, so a CPID cant be in the last 4 in Prod, and cant be in the Last 1 in testnet.


  • Rob A.
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I don't have time to chase down why my RAC and Magnitude are zero.  How long does it take for these to ramp up?  It took somewhere around a day for the VPS to show under the "Your Computers" page.  Anyway, thanks for any help or input.   

"Command": "getboincinfo",
  "CPID": "84d803e4d82d3bdcdf8e2ab601e93e20",
  "Address": "yeqg7xVzYKimDfk5r7FavzWum4XMcJ1AoZ",
  "CPIDS": "84d803e4d82d3bdcdf8e2ab601e93e20;",
  "CPID-Age (hours)": 421828,
  "NextSuperblockHeight": 9603,
  "84d803e4d82d3bdcdf8e2ab601e93e20_RAC": 0,
  "Total Payments (One Day)": 0,
 
  "Last Superblock Height": 9504,
  "Last Superblock Payment": -1,
  "Magnitude": 0


It generally takes about 24 hours to start seeing things in Biblepay, but lets also tell the users this very important point:
On the boinc side, they can install boinc manager (they probably already did if they are in windows), click View | Advanced View.  View the Rosetta Row. Take a look at the RAC column.  That gives you an idea what your RAC is before it hits biblepay.  Then 6 hours later or so, the RAC in BBP should be close to that figure.  Another way to do it is to log into your Rosetta account, and take a look at your RAC.   Youll probably find it was Zero on the web page also at that particular time.



  • MIP
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Do we have Windows version already for 1090f? If you are too busy I can try compile it myself.
Thank you very much


  • Rob A.
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Can you explain all the items here briefly? Togo can use this information to add to the wiki. Like why is the RAC number different compared to the BOINC RAC.

Please see inline:

"Command": "getboincinfo",
  "CPID": "f80ab050ab53459ec937879a046d603e",

This is the Primary CPID of the researcher, used on the overview page and for future cosmetic features.
It does not restrict a users payments down to one CPID, but it lets us do things with it like the iPhone does (Sleek features).

  "Address": "yjKEf6GvMkuiXLXibCCtj9wt4ZEBwQ5i84",
This is the public bbp receive address associated with the CPID - this is also where rewards will flow into.

  "CPIDS": "e94c1704c75f731f8bfde303f08408ee;71f1f1f46deb2f25961c7d9af06f2b31;95a79cd5829e8315b0b946709930df18;c

c37d0ef74a621379974484f43d3b1c5;f80ab050ab53459ec937879a046d603e;",

This is a list of CPIDs, if you have more than one CPID associated with this wallet.dat.  We iterate through this list in superblock payments to make sure you get full compensation.

  "CPID-Age (hours)": 421821,
This is how many hours your CPID has been alive.  This is useful if you are brand new and waiting for first reward.
We can then show messages like newbie warnings.

  "NextSuperblockHeight": 9207,
This is when the next payment is scheduled.
  "e94c1704c75f731f8bfde303f08408ee_RAC": 450586762905843,
Here, we loop through each of your CPIDs, notice the prefix, and we tally your individual RAC per CPID.
This number should match the BOINC rac on the Rosetta row in the advanced view or in the web portal.

  "f80ab050ab53459ec937879a046d603e_RAC": 50242464,
  "Total Payments (One Day)": 175686,
This is how much BBP you received over 24 hours for researching

  "Total Payments (One Week)": 1394916,
This is how much over one week
  "Total Budget (One Day)": 2730420,
This is how much was available in the budget for 24 hours for researching
  "Total Budget (One Week)": 55107360,
This is how much budget was available in 7 days for researchers
  "Superblock Count (One Week)": 68,
This is the count of PODC Superblocks that passed in one week, whether filled or not filled
  "Superblock Hit Count (One Week)": 41,
This is the number of PODC superblocks that had research payments in them in one week.
** NOTE: The primary reason we missed a superblock is we did not have enough votes in the SanctuaryQuorum,
and that is most likely because some were either off line or not running in QT mode, but now we no longer require QT mode **

  "Superblock List": "9108,8613,8217,8118,8019,7821,7425,7326,7128,7029,6831,6732,6633,6534,6435,6336,6138,5940,
5841,5742,5643,5247,5148,5049,4950,4851,4752,4653,4554,4455,4356,4257,4158,3762,3465,3168,3069,2772,2673,2574,24
75",
This is a list of superblocks with Research payments, very useful for finding a missing payment for a researcher
  "Last Superblock Budget": 1386000,
  "Last Superblock Height": 9108,
  "Last Superblock Payment": 30879,
This is the amount you were compensated in the last superblock
  "Magnitude": 25.31269870304076
Finally this is your magnitude, which is YourRAC/TotalProjectRac * 1000
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*** NOTE:
You asked why your _RAC rows were so high and did not match Boinc.

It appears to be a bug and it appears to be affecting people with Multple CPIDs.  Those RACs should match.  It does not appear to be affecting the payments, so its just a display issue.  Ill look at that today.