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  • Rob A.
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    • June 05, 2017, 08:09:04 pm
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Ok I see 13 of us are synced again, nice job!

So what we have to double check regarding this CPID signature feature :

1) That we have not introduced instability.  Your node should not crash when syncing.
2) You should not be able to mine unless you have an active CPID on that node.  You can type 'exec getboincinfo' - we use the cpid from the "CPID:" column to sign the block.  That CPID also must be in the chain (in the 'exec listdccs' in column 1, that means the CPID is securely associated).  If you can mine without a CPID something is wrong.  Note on masternodes mining does not start until chain is synced so please be patient.  Ensure HPS > 0 in getmininginfo if you have a CPID.
3) You should see the CPID and the signature on almost every block now.  Type 'showblock height'.  The column CPID is the signed CPID that mined the block.  The Signature: true/false is if it passed the signature and the magnitude test (we require a distinct CPID that has magnitude).

4) Note: The only exception is if the block span is > 15 mins (the new late block threshhold, this means no one has solved a block in 15 mins in testnet), we do accept the block from anyone- that keeps the chain from sticking if Rosetta is down, or if no other miner with a CPID is around.
So, if you find a showblock with a missing CPID, check the HRTime and subtract that HRTime from the previous block HRTime and it should be > 15 mins.  If so, things are still OK and working.


 I appreciate if people can test this with me relatively thoroughly so we have no surprises in prod, lets bust that botnet successfully in one shot.



  • rastiks
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Sorry, I meant your android device. It is also an ARM device.

ah, yeah. It seems that just half of them, 4 out of 8.


  • T-Mike
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I believe the problem is fixed.  Everyone must upgrade though.  Please upgrade to 1090f.

Windows is now rebuilding.

Rob, I just finished updating my 10 nodes.


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ah, yeah. It seems that just half of them, 4 out of 8.

Thanks man. Trying to figure out which device is best for Rosetta.


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https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/stats.php >>> Top Computers  and CPU Performance
Looks interesting


  • Rob A.
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Rob, I just finished updating my 10 nodes.
Wow thats a lot.  Sweet.
So you would be one really with an extensive getboincinfo.  Do your rewards look OK when you add all the RAC together in getboincinfo, your magnitude is probably 500-700.  Mine is about 350 (now that it has been declining daily due to the increased participation).


  • Rob A.
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https://boinc.bakerlab.org/rosetta/stats.php >>> Top Computers  and CPU Performance
Looks interesting

Yeah, the top dog has 120 procs.  His RAC is 59* what mine is, so it sounds correct.
Brings up the point though, when one of those big dogs find out they can be paid by BBP, one with hog up about the equivalent of 59 PC's in power.
The question is, will they buy BBP on the market to be investors?  Maybe a certain % will.  Eventually with this "integrity" system we may want to include some element of POS in PODC, and that will encourage some of these pure researchers to buy some BBP to "mine" with.



  • MIP
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Sent 1 mil, but youll probably have to upgrade in about 15 mins, as I did discover a bug.


Will update everyone ASAP.

Thank you. I'll wait until it's ready.


  • T-Mike
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Wow thats a lot.  Sweet.
So you would be one really with an extensive getboincinfo.  Do your rewards look OK when you add all the RAC together in getboincinfo, your magnitude is probably 500-700.  Mine is about 350 (now that it has been declining daily due to the increased participation).

"Command": "getboincinfo",
  "CPID": "f80ab050ab53459ec937879a046d603e",
  "Address": "yjKEf6GvMkuiXLXibCCtj9wt4ZEBwQ5i84",
  "CPIDS": "e94c1704c75f731f8bfde303f08408ee;71f1f1f46deb2f25961c7d9af06f2b31;95a79cd5829e8315b0b946709930df18;c
c37d0ef74a621379974484f43d3b1c5;f80ab050ab53459ec937879a046d603e;",
  "CPID-Age (hours)": 421821,
  "NextSuperblockHeight": 9207,
  "e94c1704c75f731f8bfde303f08408ee_RAC": 450586762905843,
  "71f1f1f46deb2f25961c7d9af06f2b31_RAC": 82778636,
  "95a79cd5829e8315b0b946709930df18_RAC": 51586493,
  "cc37d0ef74a621379974484f43d3b1c5_RAC": 90685327,
  "f80ab050ab53459ec937879a046d603e_RAC": 50242464,
  "Total Payments (One Day)": 175686,
  "Total Payments (One Week)": 1394916,
  "Total Budget (One Day)": 2730420,
  "Total Budget (One Week)": 55107360,
  "Superblock Count (One Week)": 68,
  "Superblock Hit Count (One Week)": 41,
  "Superblock List": "9108,8613,8217,8118,8019,7821,7425,7326,7128,7029,6831,6732,6633,6534,6435,6336,6138,5940,
5841,5742,5643,5247,5148,5049,4950,4851,4752,4653,4554,4455,4356,4257,4158,3762,3465,3168,3069,2772,2673,2574,24
75",
  "Last Superblock Budget": 1386000,
  "Last Superblock Height": 9108,
  "Last Superblock Payment": 30879,
  "Magnitude": 25.31269870304076

Can you explain all the items here briefly? Togo can use this information to add to the wiki. Like why is the RAC number different compared to the BOINC RAC.


  • orbis
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Sorry, I meant your android device. It is also an ARM device.
Mike, I have ARM based Galaxy S7. I run rosetta with 4 cores. I tested 8 cores too, but phone was too hot :) it seems that 6 cores will be fine too. But my phone has 4GB RAM.


  • T-Mike
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Looks like I've been alternating with someone else signing blocks from 9186 - 9190. Are you not allowed to sign 2 blocks consecutively? I have also confirmed that the miner works on a wallet that has a CPID tied to it and does not mine on one that doesn't.

I forgot to delete the wallet from my controller instance when I made the clones so now it looks like I can mine with all the other instances as well. I did delete the wallet on one of them to see if it would mine, it would not mine.


  • T-Mike
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Mike, I have ARM based Galaxy S7. I run rosetta with 4 cores. I tested 8 cores too, but phone was too hot :) it seems that 6 cores will be fine too. But my phone has 4GB RAM.

Per my calculations right now, you would need 4~8 more recent android phones to match the computing power of a dual Xeon E7-4820 server which currently runs about $1,000USD used.

Now you would save a lot of power, each phone uses about 5W compared to the server mentioned which probably uses about 350W. If you had 8 phones that would be 40W, about a 10th of the power of the server, That alone is a $27 different in electricity cost per month. In one year you would be spending $324 more on the server. It might be work looking into a phone and tablet mining rig.
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  • T-Mike
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Let's all stop mining on the wallet and see what happens. I have one miner turned on that doesn't have a CPID associated with it.


  • orbis
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Per my calculations right now, you would need 4~8 more recent android phones to match the computing power of a dual Xeon E7-4820 server which currently runs about $1,000USD used.
It is possible. On my phone calculations run only on charger, so not more than 6-8 hours/day :) so it is only "for fun".
Here are some stats: avg. speed 2.27 GFLOPS, avg time/task 9 hours with 4 hours cpu time, avg. credit/task 65 ;)


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It is possible. On my phone calculations run only on charger, so not more than 6-8 hours/day :) so it is only "for fun".
Here are some stats: avg. speed 2.27 GFLOPS, avg time/task 9 hours with 4 hours cpu time, avg. credit/task 65 ;)

I stopped looking at the GLOPS because it doesn't make any sense if you compare the numbers to other processors. Only the benchmark MFLOPS made sense but it could change depending on what the computer is doing at the time of the benchmark. So you say you have 4 cores running with each task earning 65 credits every 4 hours. That would make it so you need 4x Galaxy S7s running at the same time to match the referenced server.