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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 26, 2018, 04:54:29 PM »

Alright

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 26, 2018, 04:46:04 AM »

Yeah, I was thinking since the zotac is 1.1ghz and 4 core, it would run rosetta at half the speed of the power hungry PC, and maybe someone could stack 10 together and have a low power monster, but in reality so far what Im seeing is a 30 RAC (in one day) from the zotac and a 250 RAC (per day) in the ryzen.  So its not quite worth buying these.  But let me finish a full 10 day test before trusting any of these numbers or figures.  Ill make a wiki page with a table on it at the end.

Yeah, I can't really tell anything yet about which CPU is most efficient. But, for example my phone (snapdragon 800 2.2ghz) and my - very slow - laptop (AMD e-450, 2x 1.65ghz) are getting about the same RAC I think, while I only use 1 core on my phone, and it's only processing when it's charging and above 90% battery (about 8 hours per day or something) and my laptop is processing full time on two cores. But I probably need a longer timeline before I can really say anything conclusive.

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Archived Proposals / Re: Biblepay Charity Commission and Sanctuaries

« on: February 26, 2018, 02:41:07 AM »

Okay, this is an interesting idea I like the idea of supporting the charity funds with sanctuaries. Although I think maybe we should not have too many sanctuaries doing this. If we do, we will drive the value of the coin down because of all the BBP that will flow into the market. But that's a long-term thing of course, and it would take many years to get to that level. Who know how the Biblepay environment will be at that time. And we could always halt the proposals or request less BBP.

Same goes for the 'non voting' aspect. The commission can say that they won't use their sanctuaries for voting, but who is in control of the actual sanctuaries? Power can corrupt, sadly... I was thinking, maybe we could have the commissions sanctuaries on a PC that has needs some kind of 'multisig' to vote (and send funds)? You know, that at least three or so people need to give permission, before there could be access? But maybe that's a bit much, haha! And the same goes here: there's really not a lot at stake when there are just a few sanctuaries.

But I really like that there would be a team of people that screen and inform possible new charities. I've been doing that for CameroonONE and would also like to be part of the team.

Lastly: from which fund do you think the requested BBP would have to come from?

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Archived Proposals / Re: FaceBook Advertising Camping

« on: February 25, 2018, 01:29:45 PM »

So, will there be just one general post that will be translated in 20 languages? And the translators get 3750 BBP for translating that one post (if I calculated it correctly)? Of will there be room for questions after posting this, and do the translators have to deal with that? And if the answer to the last question is 'yes', then what is the difference between 'translators' and 'publishers'?

I can translate the Dutch one for free btw

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Archived Proposals / Re: BiblePay.org Website Proposal - Website Upgrade

« on: February 25, 2018, 10:28:19 AM »

If I can help with brainstorming/content, just let me know

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 24, 2018, 06:14:29 PM »

Here is a pic of the expirimental Rosetta rig Im working on (for RAC comparisons per watt), the Zotac is the little box that looks like a power supply on the top, the Ryzen is the barebones Thermaltake on the bottom:

Nice! I had something similar once: a Gigabyte Brix with a Celeron n-someting. It was fast enough for browsing and Word, not much else. It was very low-power though (that's why I bought it).

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 24, 2018, 01:52:25 AM »

Update on the next version - 1094c:

So I did a lot of expirimentation with the threading today, and have come to the conlcusion Jaap had a point, the wallet was using too much power even with the new settings in distributedcomputing mode.

So what I have done is in Distributed Computing mode the miner behaves slightly differently (in the next release).  It respects the CPU's thread priority meaning that it can run slower, and we now allow you to tweak the setting.

There will be a new setting called minersleep (the default is 0 for Prod and 250ms for Testnet).  If you set a numeric value you override it.
Now Im seeing about 10% proc usage by default, and when I raise the value, it does allow the machine to sleep more (down to more like 4% or so).

1094c is now out there for linux if anyone wants to expiriment.  This is a pretty minor change, so if you want to wait for the next release its no big deal.

Im compiling Windows now so we will have this to play with later tonight.

PS I did get the unbanked report working for the sanctuary validation system in unit test mode, but its not going to be ready til sometime tomorrow.

Great! I must say beforehand: Both AMD rigs I was telling you about were using the windows wallet. Looking back, could it be possible that the windows wallet (pre 1094c) wasn't using the 250ms setting yet?

Because just now I tested the new wallet on my linux rig, and out of the box (250ms) the cpu usage is already much lower than before. When I set it to 0ms it's back up to it's old values again.

I now set it to 500ms, and I'm able to get BOINC running along nicely while also mining (it's a véry slow AMD E-450 laptop) . I think it's great to have a 'one-go-solution' to tweaking the settings so that BOINC and one-thread-mining can go hand in hand, because I can imagine that a lot of people will be using only one computer to generate BBP.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 23, 2018, 01:00:32 PM »

Yeah, I think this is potentially resolved now but let me go over the feature now.
I think we can have the Sanctuary pull the unbanked report in the morning before it processes the RAC from its user file.

Please click on the unbanked report in the pool - its under Reports | Rosetta Unbanked report.

This thing pulls the Non-Arm RAC vs the ARM Rac for CPIDs who have ARM Rac > 0.

So what I think we can do is filter this report in the mornings , while its processing its User file, to find CPIDs who have LESS than 15 NonArm Rac, and Arm RAC > 0 into a little list of Ünbanked CPIDs.  So in this case, Rastiks is the Only one who would qualify as of today.

Rastiks Rosetta ID is connected to a certain CPID, that CPIDs RAC would be pulled in with no questions - everyone else would not be included. 

Now Im going to work on the Sanctuary side to see if I can make that rule.  Still looking into the Miner threadings.

I just checked the pool for the 'unbanked report', and I think this is a great way to 'shortlist' the data for the sanctuaries in light of this feature.

Rob, I must say, in the beginning I was not sure about PODC, but the more I'm able to wrap my head around it, the more excited I get! Absolutely marvelous work thus far.

I've also been testing with my daily phone. It only uses one core, and only when it's connected to the charger at night. But still I'm getting pretty nice results (a RAC of around 75).

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 23, 2018, 09:36:34 AM »

You can lower the number of tasks by limiting the amount of RAM used in the settings. Or you can just reduce the CPU time setting.

Oh, thx! I didn't understand the 'CPU time' option. It indeed does what I was looking for. I'm also going to look for the RAM limiting option.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 23, 2018, 08:48:01 AM »

We dont need a pool, because the boinc infrastructure is already pooling the RAC for us. 

Jaap, regarding one thread using too much power, I already made it sleep 200ms between iterations, it could be that you are running this on a low power machine, I suppose I can put in more granular control over this to see if this can be improved.  Right now on my windows dev machine, Im running rosetta 6 tasks : taking 50% of the cpu, the plain vanilla biblepay on 1 thread is taking 13% of the cpu, and its hashing at 270hps in testnet.  So of course we have to consider the fact that we *do* want it hashing on 1 thread so we have a baseline level of average security.  But nevertheless, Ill add a setting to see if we can control the sleep better, and, have it actually attempt to sleep more often - there is also something that I need to look at for the miner process as far as CPU priority - it might be set to high and not normal, meaning that on certain machines its not listening to your wishes, ill check into all that today.

Well, it's an AMD Phenom II machine. 4 cores and 4 threads. What I've done for now, is allocate 3 cores to BOINC and 1 core to the wallet (which is mining with 1 thread now (+-250hps), with low priority).
Now both can run at the same time.

It's interesting to read that your Rosetta tasks take up 50% of your cpu power. With my PC (if I don't allocate cores), it just goes up to 100%, and I don't know how to lower that (is there a way to configure the amount of tasks that you do?).

I fired up Rosetta on a second PC (also AMD 4-core, 4-thread), and there Rosetta also takes up 100% of the CPU power.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 23, 2018, 02:05:57 AM »

And have same question like jaapgvk.
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One (minor) thing: the 'setgenerate 1' option makes the wallet hash at the old speed again (not 1%) on both the linux and windows wallets. I think it was also the case with the previous version.
So, to be clear: with the current wallet, when I do 'setgenerate 1 true', on my quadcore 4 thread system, I'm using about 25% of my CPU.
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I am on linux and last two versions are back on 1 full thread (1.0.9.2 was 1% of all processor).

Thank and excuse my english. I beleve that you understand my question .

Yeah, I'm using the latest wallet and BOINC on my windows pc now. But I can't mine and use BOINC at the same time, because the wallet will use too much of the cpu-cycles and BOINC stops processing.

I don't know how to tweak the settings so that I can use both.

That also brings me to an other question about poor people all over the world using their phone to mine BBP (which I think will be a great application for Biblepay). How would one go about this? Would one person have a wallet running somewhere 24/7, and other people (with phones and tablets) would be running BOINC, and the person with the wallet would divide the collected BBP? Just thinking out loud.

Because I always liked the idea of 'one-click-mining', especially in combination with mobile phones and tablets, because even though - for example - a lot of people in Afrika are poor, a lót of them have a phone (although I don't know how many have smartphones).

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 22, 2018, 08:36:18 AM »

He said We were all here for Greed, and alluded that this project is about money and were not really Christians.  Your right, I should have replied with more Love.

If you look at the history, I have tried that, and God actually says to forgive your brother not 7 times but 77 times.
I do forgive him....

I understand your frustration Rob. Slovakia is quite the character, and I think he must have used up most of the '77 times' by now 

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Archived Proposals / Re: New Charity Organization - BLOOM

« on: February 22, 2018, 03:08:57 AM »

Congratulations on getting the budget 

It's great to see that the growth of our community goes hand in hand with the good we can do.

Maybe in a little while (maybe if/when CameroonOne can also gets some budget and after the introduction of PODC), we can start thinking about PR. It's great to hear that you are also willing to help out with the site.  I think one of our future steps should be to present ourselves in a singular way across our media.

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 20, 2018, 04:14:30 PM »

Alright, windows 1093 is out there, now lets try to increase our Sanc count to ensure all sancs sync to 999.

Just fired up my sactuary again. Synced nicely up to 999 and is PRE-ENABLED now. Also installed the latest windows wallet.

One (minor) thing: the 'setgenerate 1' option makes the wallet hash at the old speed again (not 1%) on both the linux and windows wallets. I think it was also the case with the previous version.
So, to be clear: with the current wallet, when I do 'setgenerate 1 true', on my quadcore 4 thread system, I'm using about 25% of my CPU.

(And T-Mike: thanks for the tBBP!)

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TestNet Discussion Archive / Re: BIBLEPAY -TESTNET TESTING THREAD-Proof-Of-Distributed-Computing(Cancer Research)

« on: February 20, 2018, 12:35:47 PM »

Could someone send me 500.000 tBBP so I can set up a new masternode?

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